I understand this is a valid issue for certain players but is it a proportionate response to this situation to trash the game on steam? I don't think so.

[–] dustyData 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

we are gonna trash that because of a PSN account requirements ?

Yes, next question.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No problem.

Legit question: Did you completely stopped playing Helldivers 2 ?

Is it uninstalled?

Did you ask for a refund ?

Because if you still play the game and at the same time say it should be trashed that's a lot of hypocrisy.

It can't be both. You can criticize the game that's fine. But if you still play it and you are so vocal for its demise then you are definitely part of the problem here.

[–] dustyData 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I never played or bought it, because I hate Sony and don't play always online multiplayer games because they treat players as cattle and not as users.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So you are asking other players to review bomb and try to kill a game you never bought yourself?

Fascinating.

Edit: I think the above conversation is a good example of why I don't think Steam Review Bombing is the best solution. You get people delivering fake reviews sometimes for games they don't even play themselves. I understand why they do that I just don't think that's the right way to do so. And also thinks it's not fair for the actual devs working on the project.

[–] dustyData 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not asking anyone to do anything. I do all my trashing individually and independently. That's a straw man the size of the wicker man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes

I asked but was denied my first one, and did not submit a second one before Sony walked back the changes.

I don't actually have plans to return to the game, because Sony is consistently fucking with the dev team and the game has now accrued so much technical debt that the constant bugs and issues would impact me every time I log in.

I will also no longer be supporting Sony titles on PC. Even if they release my holy grail Bloodborne, I'll pirate it and play it offline.

Fuck Sony forever, and stop trying to gatekeep hating a company over their shitty practices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s a bad take to tell people their only means of effective protest is not going through proper channels.

Did you have a constructive suggestion or are you just here to defend Sony?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago

First would you mind telling me where I defend Sony ?

It must be very subtle.

This conversation already starts in bad faith. You are trying to undermine my comment by declaring I'm taking side with Sony. There is nothing in my recent comments that says Sony has done something right or that I agree with their move. Nothing.

Am I allowed to genuinely think this account issue wasn't that much of a big deal ? Or do I only get to choose if I'm a Sony shill or not ? I have seen my favorite game franchise getting shat on for years by their developers (EA) and I have seen things thousands of time much worse from EA than this account requirement from PS. Still right to call out Sony for this but this is not a "this game is unplayable" issue like we had many times on other games. So yeah I have a nuanced opinion on this and didnt immediately accept that Sony murdered Helldivers 2 and that the game is dead.

My suggestion is not complicated. Stay truthful in your reviews. That's not rocket science. A lot of these reviews are rating or presenting the game as much worse than they really think it is. Most of these players will review bomb and will play hundred of hours just after that. I'm fucking French I understand what protests are and that being an annoyance is kind of the point. But review bombing on steam and telling a naive player that would definitely enjoy the game that the game is trash will never be cool. You can say in your review that you don't like that aspect of the game but if the point is only to be negative and untrustworthy this is not the way. Again if you truly suddenly think that game is "the worst game ever" after playing hundreds of hours and learning of the PS requirements then fine but I doubt it's what happens.

Also did you stop to think what is your comment bringing to the table here ? It's just an unnecessarily aggressive comment and doesn't either provide anything beside telling me I'm wrong and it's a bad take.

It’s a bad take to tell people their only means of effective protest is not going through proper channels.

Steam review bombing is absolutely not the proper channel to voice discontent. It's a review. Not a forum, not a dev support channel. It's a review. You are giving your honest feedback on a game. The good and the bad. Not just "the thing everyone told me is bad" and nothing else.

This is not cool to tell devs their game is trash on the steam page if you don't really and truthfully think so.

Absolutely despise th fact that devs have to constantly read their game is trash in steam reviews because some higher-ups decided to go full greed mode.

So yeah Steam REVIEWS are NOT the proper channel to voice discontent. Almost any other forum or social network is. Just not a steam review page.