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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I had the misfortune to endure living in Kansas during my adolescence. The abortion fight was really strong in the anti-choice regard. The state appears to be gently moving toward less religious bullshittery, but my adult niece lost friends in high school when she came out as an atheist.

TLDR: don’t be a free-thinking teenager in Kansas.

[–] psycho_driver 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The abortion fight was really strong in the anti-choice regard.

The thing is they put this to the vote almost two years ago and Kansans pretty heartily beat it down (59% voted to leave our abortion laws alone). Then they go and do this anyway because they want to.

[–] Passerby6497 8 points 6 months ago

Because Republicans don't want to govern, they want to rule.

[–] Matthew_Gasoline 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't say she lost any "friends" in high school.

I think the TLDR is a little misleading as well. Encourage EVERYONE to think for their selves, no matter the location.

[–] Wrench 7 points 6 months ago

What is; The Definition of Pedantic

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn’t say she lost any “friends” in high school.

People you spent your teenage years doing kid-stuff with who suddenly get really weird around you, as though you're some kind of alien, because you've been outed as a heretic... its jarring. For you and for them (typically this shit comes from their parents first and involves a lot of screaming and crying).

I watched my younger sister's friend group crack in half their junior year, because it just kinda clicked in someone's head that "Oh shit, I've been hanging out with Muslims this whole time and that's why they won't come to church with me". Half the group tried to "save" the other half, tensions got really heated, and they fell apart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

My best friend from high school stopped talking to me before the pandemic, at ~32 years old. We always were different sides of the aisle but always reconciled at "the system is busted and corrupt."

Lo and behold, he starts a real estate company piggy backing off his dads construction company money and connections, the system suddenly isn't busted or corrupt anymore - and now I'm a commie for utilizing the VA health care promised to me in the contract I signed with the government.

[–] Matthew_Gasoline 2 points 6 months ago

“We must learn to live together as brothers or we will perish together as fools." -MLK Jr

[–] lemmyhavesome 1 points 6 months ago

Religion is just so insidious in how it turns people against each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why you wouldn't read my TLDR as sarcasm is beyond me. But it's written, not said, and these misinterpretations happen.

[–] Matthew_Gasoline 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All I said is it is misleading. Your points don't lead to the same conclusion the TLDR does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Being a person who thinks the bible doesn't make sense / isn't true is a form of free-thinking when raised in a religious environment. Expressing such views in Kansas can lead to social ostracism. Don't be a free-thinking teen in Kansas. What doesn't fit?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

but my adult niece lost friends in high school when she came out as an atheist.

The idea that atheism is so abnormal and despised that coming out as an atheist is a thing, is so foreign to me. The world is a weird place. And yeah I know that historically that was the norm, but still.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

TLDR: don’t be a free-thinking teenager in Kansas.

Grew up in a Texas suburb where not being staunchly Christian was a huge problem. But as the neighborhood filled out with East Asian immigrants, it grew more liberal by degrees simply because everyone wasn't going to the same three fucking churches.

The high school I went to that had big student-led church services in the cafeteria in the mid-90s just kinda... stopped doing that by the time I graduated because it was weird and none of the new kids were into it.

Then 9/11 happened and there was a huge backswing. But it was less "be religious" and more "be into country music and hating Muslims". And then a bunch of pasty white ROTC kids went off to Afghanistan/Iraq to get their shit kicked in for years, while more East Asian Muslims moved into the neighborhood.

Now the city council is halfway to a Rainbow Coalition (of Republican-aligned real estate agents) and you'd never even know it was Tom DeLay's home base 30 years ago.