Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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Enough self-proclaimed feminists do.
Which in turn make some men feel alienated and push them towards content creators like Peterson or Tate.
And probably more feminist haters do. Both are still wrong
How do you define "Enough"?
Based on your statements, I'd say "Enough" means at least one so that you can claim some moral high ground.
Which, as you say, is a choice. Their choice. They can either suck it up and not take a minority of vocal extremists as gospel, or they can become the same because they're insecure.
It doesn't feel like a minority of vocal extremists when such posts are getting engagement and barely any other feminists are calling it out.
How would you know? Do you follow any established feminist channels or content to have some idea of what "mainstream" feminiss believe?
Listen, if I have to specifically follow what these feminists say about 'man-hating' content that is going viral, then that's not very useful.
Because even if I know these feminists don't agree what's being posted, their views have low visibility compared to misandrist content which doesn't help the victimization that other young men are feeling.
Again how do you know whether they agree or not?
Also, you downvoted me for that comment? You must totally want to learn and not just feel morally superior in your willful ignorance
Ok. It seems like you're not able to understand what I'm saying. Bye.
Wow you're insufferable. I wish nothing but the very best for the people in your life that have to endure you
Ok, dumbass