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Benjamin Netanyahu is seeking to trap the west into a total war across the Middle East that would have incalculable consequences for the region and the world, Iran’s top diplomat in the UK has claimed, in his first interview since Tehran launched an unprecedented missile and drone attack against Israel at the weekend.

Seyed Mehdi Hosseini Matin also warned that if Israel made “another mistake” by launching an attack on Iran, there would be a response from Iran that was stronger, more severe, and administered without a warning like that issued before the weekend attack.

The salvo of more than 300 drones and missiles – almost all of which were intercepted by Israel and its allies or fell short of their targets – came in retaliation for a 1 April airstrike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria, that killed several Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards officers. Israel’s top general, Lt Gen Herzi Halevi, has said the country would respond, but it remains unclear what form that would take.

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[–] partial_accumen 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The US has been pumping out anti- Iranian propaganda for the last two years; their citizens are virtually foaming at the mouth for war.

I don't like how Iran treats its population, and especially its women. I don't like that Iran is helping Russia invade Ukraine. Iran arming Houthi rebels screwing up global trade is annoying.

As someone from the USA, I say none of that is a good enough justification for going to war with Iran. Even apart from the inevitable tragic loss of civilian life of Iranians, its not about having or not having the military might. We spent untold billions trying to make Afghanistan viable. I'm not interested in another repeat of that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Also fighting in Iran would be a fucking nightmare Afghanistan but bigger basically. Hell the only reason that Islam was able to spread there is cause the Persian empire and Rome veat the living shit out of eachother and even then it took nearly a thousand years for the last major Zoroastrian regions to convert.

[–] CosmicCleric 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

As someone from the USA, I say none of that is a good enough justification for going to war with Iran.

We should all remember that the Iranian government is not the same thing as the Iranian people, before going to war.

[–] eskimofry 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately a lot of people actually hate Muslims so that argument isn't going to work like you intended.

[–] CosmicCleric 1 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately a lot of people actually hate Muslims so that argument isn’t going to work like you intended.

Maybe true, but also, it's up to each of us individually to fight prejudice within ourselves. And either way, it's worth saying, even if it ends up not being effective.

If we use the excuse of just allowing our hate to do what it wants, by evolving down to our base animalistic selves, then the center will not hold.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you think any place whose gov't America has gone to war with since WWII is better for it?

America doesn't go to war with a gov't, our gov't goes to war with the people. This is why they have insane civilian casualties, but fail to accomplish strategic objectives.

I guarantee no woman or gay person in Iran wants to be liberated by a B-52.

[–] partial_accumen 4 points 7 months ago

Do you think any place whose gov’t America has gone to war with since WWII is better for it?

America (and most countries) don't go to war to help out that country's populace. They do so to achieve geopolitical goals. Any outcome positive or negative to the populace of that country is usually superfluous to the primary geopolitical goals.

[–] Burn_The_Right 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is true. The Iranian people are wonderful, and are victims of a conservative government. Iran is an example of what unchecked conservative governing looks like.