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His ‘Sleepy Joe’ nickname for his rival seems to have come full circle, with social media users now calling Mr Trump ‘Sleepy Don’

While the rest of the world can’t peel their eyes away as Donald Trump’s historic criminal trial gets under way in New York, the former president himself appears to be far less enthralled by the proceedings.

Jury selection got under way on Monday in the first-ever criminal trial of a sitting or former president, as he faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in a bid to cover up hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels. 

But, according to some courtroom reporters, Mr Trump appeared to struggle to keep his eyes open – and at one point may have even fallen asleep.

“Trump appears to be sleeping. His head keeps dropping down and his mouth goes slack,” *New York Times *reporter Maggie Haberman reported.

The observation quickly inspired a new nickname for the 77-year-old former president: “Sleepy Don.”

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[–] ZoopZeZoop 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No one is saying that. They're doing the opposite of that, actually. If they were saying black or white, they would both be 10 or 0. Instead, they're saying that on a scale of 1-10, Biden is a 2, at best, but Trump is a -50.

There are no great options, but one option is significantly worse than the other.

[–] aibler 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree Biden is a 2, but the scale is 1-10, and Trump is a 1. This ridiculous, over-the-top, non-sensical hyperbole of putting the other candidate at -50 on a scale with a minimum of a 1 is the problem. You can dislike someone without saying that they are 52 points behind on a 10 point scale. This does nothing but encourage the people who want both sides to look/feel like absurdly moronic sheep who can't do anything but follow the rest of the herd.

Don't let them win by sacrificing your own self-image and dignity. If you keep pretending to be that stupid just to "show your team loyality", then you will actually start to see yourself as being as stupid as you're pretending to be.

[–] ZoopZeZoop 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The difference is that great. Trump is a criminal, and not ashamed of it. He will sell all of our rights and all of the things that make America a great place (I'm not saying it couldn't be better, but there are many great things about the US.).

[–] aibler -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes, he is a criminal, and he is not ashamed of it, you're right. Most politicians are criminals, he just cares less to hide it. It would almost certainly be better if a more embarrassed criminal is in office, I agree.

If a Trump presidency means all of our rights being sold, then I guess we have nothing to worry about because we must not have any rights left for him to sell(he was literally already the president). I know this seems like a simple rebuttal, that's because it is. This is the problem when you get used to always having people agree with anything that is pro-Biden, it completely deteriorates your ability to debate on the issue.

If you only ever play with cheat codes, when you then encounter someone with any ability to push back you just have curl up in a ball and wait for the anonymous upvotes to stroke your ego and convince you that you must be right because you said "Yay! Biden!". This is the part where you would typically ignorantly call me a "Trump Fucker", then I say "No, I don't like Trump either", then you just get more angry because it makes no sense to you that maybe I dislike both of the mental patients.

[–] ZoopZeZoop 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, he was president, and he was selling our rights away. The predictions from his own staff the first time are that he will be even worse this time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If a Trump presidency means all of our rights being sold, then I guess we have nothing to worry about because we must not have any rights left for him to sell(he was literally already the president).

First run he had somewhat capable people around him to stop or slow him down. The second run is where he will apply lessons learned. It is not imaginary nor fantasy to perceive or see this.

If you only ever play with cheat codes, when you then encounter someone with any ability to push back you just have curl up in a ball and wait for the anonymous upvotes to stroke your ego and convince you that you must be right because you said "Yay! Biden!". This is the part where you would typically ignorantly call me a "Trump Fucker", then I say "No, I don't like Trump either", then you just get more angry because it makes no sense to you that maybe I dislike both of the mental patients.

Jesus... I mean, come on man. One moment you want some form of discussion and next you know you vent like a madman. In short, this text reflects on you, not on the party you intended to childishly insult.

And for the record, I also object to this 'both sides' nonsense. Is Biden perfect? Of course not. But he will and has tried to do the right things. Again, not always and I have issues with him but what politician is going to do all the things I like?
But to place trump next to Biden is a colossal feat of mental gymnastics that I am sure you do not truly believe. That guy is out for one and one only, himself. That's it. And he will use every opportunity and lever to achieve this. There is a difference and it is quite large as well.

[–] aibler -2 points 8 months ago

Well, it's refreshing to see someone admit they are both shit(I know, I know, clearly one is more shit). It's just a shame it takes so much pushing to get people to admit the obvious. Imagine if people could start out in conversations willing to admit this.

You're right, it is a bit maddening that people are so scared to speak their minds. I'm glad you were able to speak your mind, prepare for downvotes.

Just so you know, it wasn't so long ago that Biden was chanting his "marriage is between a man and a woman" bullshit, maybe he truly had a change of opinion, or maybe, just maybe, he is like all the other politicians that just try to read the room and pretend to be passionate about what will get votes.