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One could argue that the embassy attack was Israel defending itself from the IRGC commander and generals that were supplying the Houthis and Hamas with intel and weapons.
I’m not defending the attack on the embassy, since I’ve learned about civilian casualties. I’m simply saying this is a long standing conflict. Israel didn’t just come at Iran out of nowhere.
So then in that case, Hamas attacking US embassies is completely fair game for arming Israel?
Israel is a sovereign nation, the Houthis are not.
Under international law, the attacks of a nation are the responsibility of the attacking nation. The same is not true for independent militant groups. For example:
France arms Ukraine and Ukraine attacks Russia, Ukraine is responsible. Iran arms Houthis and Houthis attack Israel, Iran is responsible.
Well if they do argue that, then I guess they were already at war. In which case, I guess we let them continue to "work it out"...
This conflict started in 1985.
No one can argue that. It's stupidity.
By this logic, Israel can also bomb Chinese and Russian embassies. They only did it to Iran, because they want to draw the US into the conflict.
That’s a very America-centric sentiment. This conflict has been ongoing since 1985.
Yes but the reason they acted out this week rather than before is because Biden publicly announced criticisms of Israel and threatened to condition aid. You cannot ignore the context.
And yet you are.
International law says embassies are sacrosanct. Even if there was commander and generals in there, you cannot attack first and argue self defense without a credible threat of “imminent” danger. Israel had none and has not even argued for this claim. We went over this when the US illegally assassinated Suleimani.
No. I’m not. I’m debating the point that Israel attacked “first,” just as you said, in a 40 year long conflict.
That’s not what you said, you said Israel could claim justification for bombing an embassy because enemies were in it. Then you made a vague comment about how long the conflict is, as if that excuses it. If that is true, then all israeli embassies are fair game because Mosaad is in them and US embassies as well since they openly have CIA officers in them.
Firing missiles into a country to blow up an embassy of another country is a “first” no matter what justification you or Israel can come up with.
I said “one could claim it was retaliation” referring to the Houthi Red Sea attacks. My point is this has been going back and forth for 40 years.
So the guy with a week old account is condescending. I’m pretty sure I’ve read and taught more history than you. Peace.
Just a 7 day old account JAQing off
Your account was 7 days old once too. Thanks for the warm welcome.