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If you're old enough to remember, it's a little unsettling and strange. (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver to c/justpost

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[–] daltotron 54 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah we're probably totally cooked. I wasn't even alive in the 90's, so I wouldn't know firsthand, but you can listen to nature recordings around certain locations and what was once many birds is now not very many birds.

I dunno. I think everyone looks at climate change and the destruction of ecosystems and habitats as a kind of, instantly apocalyptic issue, like that's just a turning point and then suddenly everyone dies. I don't think it's so simple. I don't really know if corn or many of the crops we rely on can weather 2 degrees celsius global warming or whatever, but I think it's probably pretty likely that humanity, or more likely, some well-meaning asshole, ends up terraforming a bunch of shit before that really happens, which will probably kill a bunch of other animals and decrease overall biodiversity to an even greater extent. I think probably humanity at large would rather kill almost every other lifeform on the planet for survival before we allow ourselves to be threatened. Or, before we allow our structures to threaten dissolution, so probably "other lifeforms" also includes like, people in third world countries who rely on more local ecology and depend on local ecosystems for their foodstuffs. More interdependent.

So I dunno, we're probably totally cooked.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh no we are. We were told in the 80's that we had 20 years. It's been 40 years.

They also told us that when we start seeing the signs, it's too late.

Realistically at this point all we can do is mitigate the damage as much as possible. There's going to be widespread migrations, famine, resource wars. Humanity will survive but the environment will be drastically altered damn near permanently.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Humans will survive but will pay the greatest cost.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I would argue that the greatest cost is paid by all the species that vanish forever.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am beginning to wonder how long it is going to be before we do something stupid like intentionally detonate a few nukes in a remote area to intentionally cause a mild nuclear winter to stave off the effects of climate change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Futurama was wrong, nukes will just make climate change worse. That's why the Doomsday Clock combines both.

[–] Emerald 2 points 7 months ago

you can listen to nature recordings around certain locations and what was once many birds is now not very many birds

any good decades old nature recordings you could recommend me?