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In 2023, more deepfake abuse videos were shared than in every other year in history combined, according to an analysis by independent researcher Genevieve Oh. What used to take skillful, tech-savvy experts hours to Photoshop can now be whipped up at a moment’s notice with the help of an app. Some deepfake websites even offer tutorials on how to create AI pornography.

What happens if we don’t get this under control? It will further blur the lines between what’s real and what’s not — as politics become more and more polarized. What will happen when voters can’t separate truth from lies? And what are the stakes? As we get closer to the presidential election, democracy itself could be at risk. And, as Ocasio-Cortez points out in our conversation, it’s about much more than imaginary images.

“It’s so important to me that people understand that this is not just a form of interpersonal violence, it’s not just about the harm that’s done to the victim,” she says about nonconsensual deepfake porn. She puts down her spoon and leans forward. “Because this technology threatens to do it at scale — this is about class subjugation. It’s a subjugation of entire people. And then when you do intersect that with abortion, when you do intersect that with debates over bodily autonomy, when you are able to actively subjugate all women in society on a scale of millions, at once digitally, it’s a direct connection [with] taking their rights away.”

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[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And you think this rapid response is going to happen?

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/19/118-congress-bills-least-unproductive-chart

You can call that defeatist, I call it realistic. The Republicans aren't even passing laws giving them everything that they want that Democrats hand to them on a silver platter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-kill-border-bill-sign-trumps-strength-mcconnells-waning-in-rcna137477

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/republicans--are-killing-a-tax-cut-203349220.html

And you think some sort of AI fake media law would even get out of committee? And it would somehow stop websites generating such fake content in Russia from disseminating it in the U.S.?

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Outlawing cp doesn't stop it from being produced or hosted in other countries so we should give up on that too? Or should we sensibly keep a law against it on the books, build an international broad consensus to work against it, and apply political pressure to the countries that won't cooperate?

"There is plenty to be done at this point. Not being able to fix it 100% doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to fix it at all."

"It might not be immediate, perfect, or without resistance but it can be done"

Republicans are shitheads for sure but if nonconsensual ai porn presented to them with the right degree of moral panic they could accidentally do the right thing.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They aren't achieving anything. So why you think they might accidentally achieve something I don't know.

And maybe deepfake porn would be something they care about (although I doubt it), but they sure don't care about deepfake political images.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/25/23697328/biden-reelection-rnc-ai-generated-attack-ad-deepfake

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you feel this way about all progressive policies? Like gun control? In the face of opposition don't try.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the current climate? Yes. It would be purely performative and a waste of taxpayer money.

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So given the purely obstructionist nature of Republicans what is left for Dems to do?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Work on getting more Democrats elected. Because there is very little they will be able to achieve legislatively at the moment.

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hard to work on getting more democrats elected when the proposed platform is we won't do anything because the republicans will just say no.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Won't" is not the same as "can't."

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trying to do things and failing every time attracts voters?

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't see why "we're wasting your money" is better than "we're fighting to get a majority so we can finally pass legislation."

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because "we are wasting your money" is false. They are either getting paid to try to advance progressive issues or they are getting paid to sit in their asses and promise to try once they have enough people. That they fail every time it's false too. Also assuming that putting up no fight doesn't hurt things is incorrect. Just letting the issue go and letting it become the new normal makes it harder to gain momentum on later.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think drafting a bill is as easy and cost-free as just sitting there and doing nothing? Really?

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think that drafting no bills and promising to do it later is going to win more seats and not lose them?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Now you're changing the subject from what you just claimed. This is what you said:

They are either getting paid to try to advance progressive issues or they are getting paid to sit in their asses and promise to try once they have enough people.

Are you going to admit that drafting a bill costs more taxpayer money than not doing so?

Because just hiring legal experts alone, which should absolutely be done before drafting a bill, costs more money than not hiring them.

[–] magnusrufus 1 points 7 months ago

Dude the topic has been drifting for quite a while. You going to act like "getting more Dems" doesn't have a cost? You going to admit all the things you've blown past? Your proposal is to have them not do a major component of their job and instead focus on flipping seats blue. The money they get paid as elected officials gets paid either way. Either course of action costs money, doing the proper prep work for bills or campaigning. That famously so-cheap-it's-near-as-free campaigning. They will need to not only justify to their own voters keeping them elected during your do nothing policy but also convince other voters to elect more do-nothings.

Hold yourself to your own standards.