Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
Rules
Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
Be productive
Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people's efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed.
Keep the following guidelines in mind when posting:
- Build upon the OP
- Discuss concepts rather than semantics
- No low effort comments
- No personal attacks
Assume good faith
Do not call other submitters' personal experiences into question.
No bigotry
Slurs, hate speech, and negative stereotyping towards marginalized groups will not be tolerated.
No brigading
Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues.
Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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Non feminist male communities tend to devolve into misogynistic places. What exactly is your problem with feminism, except the name?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
"Feminism holds the position that societies prioritize the male point of view and that women are treated unjustly in these societies."
It's not about equality if it favors one sex over the other.
You never see feminists complaining about the draft or female employment in sanitation industries, for example.
Trying to conflate "feminism" with "equality among the sexes" is just a subversive tactic used by feminists to fool men into thinking they care about injustices towards men.
They don't. In fact, most of them proudly laugh if anyone even mentions something along the lines of "injustices towards men."
Sure. From my point of view man and women both struggle from the same societal structures, be it in quite different ways. Feminism addressees those societal structures from the perspective of women and in more recent times other marginalized groups. While sure it's not a lens specifically developed to view male issues, for me personally it's been a helpful tool to empathize with women in general and to question societal or interpersonal structures (like man has to be the provider for the family or what the hell is family anyway?). You have a rather antagonistic view on feminism, maybe based on your own negative experiences or maybe influenced by certain media bubbles. So you might not find the discussions in this community very helpful.
Oh look, he's 95% of the way to the general incel stuff. Say "family court" next!
I'm interested in discussing men's issues with feminists. I don't have nearly as much interest in hearing the view points of anti-feminists. Red pill and MRA spaces are decidedly boring because anti-feminists have taken over the discourse.
In short, I support labeling this a feminist community.