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Isn't Black Swan just Perfect Blue for people who never watch anime?
Edit: For the people that don't know
Excuse me, who are you?
Side note: Black Swan's director was accused of plagiarizing Perfect Blue, which is honestly really obvious, and he denied it left and right. But Satoshi Kon said he and the director for Black Swan met in 2001. So take from that what you will.
Isn't this the same thing as the hunger games copying Battle Royale and then denying it and acting like they came up with the idea themselves? It seems like a lot of western movies just steal shit from animes because the audience here for animes is much smaller than the general public who will go watch a Hollywood movie.
Well, ideas are not entirely original. Its possible that multiple people can have the same or similar idea at the same time without any knowledge of the others.
But in general I think that many ideas are stolen from other cultures and put forth as original, yes. And usually if its taken from anime, its probably because the audience its being presented to would refuse to watch it purely on principle of being anime specifically. Theyre fine with Disney Dumbo and Pixar Toy Story, but for whatever reason Japanese animation is crossing the line. Anti-anime people are weird like that.
Samurai movies and Westerns had a lot of cross pollination as well.
That's fair assessment. I don't know how many people didn't care for anime even today with its more mainstream apeal.
No way, Hunger Games stole their premise from some random YA book series. /s
Well, supposedly they got both inspired by The Lottery, which is a book that predates Battle Royale as well.
Hmm that sounds more like how the Aztecs or Mayans killed kids for their harvest gods. (If I'm recalling which did which correctly)
Aromofsky also bought the rights for a live action movie adaptation so he could copy a scene for Requiem for a Dream.
https://animationobsessive.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-perfect-blue
I'm learning a lot today.
Damn, a bunch of movies shot up in priority on the list of movies I need to watch
Everything from Satoshi Kon for beginning. Then you can move on to Kurosawa who was also awesome editor and had great ideas on scene building and transitions.
Perfect Blue meets Princess Tutu
Is princess tutu any good? I've got through 2 episodes but got bored fairly quickly.
I enjoyed it but my guilty pleasure are mahou shoujo anime. This one has nice character development and it's set to Swan Lake, it's not for everyone!
Can we go even deeper?
Doesn't go deeper than Satoshi Kon, creator of Perfect Blue. He made some 4-5 movies before being diagnosed with cancer and dying soon after. But even for such a short period he left a huuuuuge impact on movie industry. Can't help but imagine what would happen had he lived.
Mandatory: Every frame a painting about his work.
I'm sure it's based on some obscure 4 panel webcomic and I would not have it any other way.
You blew my mind. Perfect Blue has been on my list forever. Going to procure it right away. I really like the art style.
Its a great movie, but one you need to know is hard to follow for most people. Its also got some less than savory, intentionally VERY uncomfortable scenes that cause a lot of people to just stop watching the movie entirely.
Its a movie where I would say to prepare yourself for, but you literally cannot prepare enough for it.
You should, it's a great movie!