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[–] themeatbridge 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The GOP is all about conservativism. Conservativism is abject narcissism dressed up like a political ideology, but there are no fundamentally conservative ideals. I suppose you could call it "hyper-intersectional identity politics," but really it's just selfishness. The conservative will say or do anything as long as they believe it benefits the conservative. They are righteous because of who they are, and they are justified by their faith in themselves.

So when it benefits the conservatives to support a private business refusing service, then it is a moral absolute that private businesses can refuse service. When they are refused service, it is a crime against humanity to create such inequality. These two ideas appear contradictory, even hypocritical, from the outside, but they are fully rational to conservatives who are inside the circle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It's the "outgroups to bind, in groups to protect" thing. That's all.

Or the other angle on it: "you don't tell me what to do. I tell you what to do."

It's a shitty world view held by shitty people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree with what you are saying but you are confusing Republicans for Conservatives. I believe it is possible for a reasonable Conservative to exist, that has different priorities than Liberals but has coherent arguments and the ability to work with others. I don't believe a reasonable Conservative could support the Republicans.

In a reasonable country a reasonable Conservative would probably look a lot like Joe Biden.

[–] themeatbridge 2 points 8 months ago

It is not possible for a reasonable Conservative to exist, because Conservativism isn't a reasonable ideology. There are no permanently conservative priorities, because each conservative defines conservative values around their own definition for who is included in their version of conservativism.

I know you're probably running down a list in your head of all the values that you associate with stereotypical conservatives, but there isn't one of them where you won't find exceptions and rationalizations for why it's OK for conservatives to ignore those values. Their position inevitably changes when the position is not benefiting their in-group. They are anti-abortion, until they want an abortion. They are anti-inmigration, except for immigrants from their home country. They want low taxes, for themselves, and want to reduce spending on anything they don't directly benefit from.

Just about the only thing you could argue is exclusively conservative are most forms of bigotry. While there are certainly bigoted progressives, bigots are welcomed and supported in Conservative parties as long as they fit within the defition of the self.