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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It does unironically ship with a rootkit as well. Not joking.

[–] bbuez 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IIRC it is still limited to user level perms on Linux

If a game needs you to enter sudo to run then thats a problem.. or a desktop theme

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Isnt that why you can't play on Linux anymore? Not granting root?

[–] bbuez 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

..no, the issue with typical anticheats like EAC is that some studios simply want to avoid also patching for Linux, and the file system/utilities of wine can trip cheat detection

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] aidan 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Iirc no, it's because of vanguard which is a rootkit

[–] bbuez 1 points 7 months ago

I mostly coming off of EAC which can be configured to run within user perms, but damn vanguard just reads like spyware

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there are a few specific flags that Vanguard looks for when it runs, you can easily bypass it by adding some flags to a virtual machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay I'd say pm me but I like the scraps of mental health I have so maybe don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah I've given you enough, just search up a video guide on YT.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thank you for not. My therapist would thank you too, if I had one.

[–] Serinus 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just like Apex Legends, Fortnite, and RuneScape, among many, many others.

Anything using Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) or Battleye is also using a kernel level anti-cheat.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Incorrect, League of Legends and Valorant both use Riot's proprietary Vanguard Anticheat. The reason it has to run on startup and won't work if started afterwards is because it's a kernel level program.

EAC does also have kernel level capabilities, and in fact conflicts when run at the same time as Vanguard, but your list is incorrect.

Runescape (both RS3 and OSRS) do not use EAC and cannot tell what programs you have open.

While too many games use Kernel Level anticheats, it isn't normal or industry standard by any stretch of the imagination and it also doesn't actually work very well compared to other methods so not only does it not protect you but it makes you more vulnerable.

[–] Serinus -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Every piece of unvetted code (like games) you run makes you vulnerable. This isn't any different.

[–] SkyezOpen 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It depends what the code has access to is the point.

[–] Serinus 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you play any of the games on this list that use Easy Anti Cheat the code has all the same access.

The difference is that Riot's thing starts on boot instead of when the game starts. I don't think anyone's rebooting for security reasons after playing Fall Guys or Fortnite.

The complaints are somewhat legitimate, but the fact that they're focused on Riot and not the dozens of games that do basically the same thing is... off. What Riot is doing isn't much different than the stuff that's already happening that nobody cares about (even if maybe they should).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not everywhere atm

They are testing it in lower pop regions