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UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

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[–] Rapidcreek 88 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Passed. US Abstaining with no veto. BTW it also calls for immediate and unconditional release of hostages.

[–] Blackbeard 72 points 11 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Rapidcreek 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn't use its veto. So, now the US didn't. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.

[–] gmtom 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming "genocide Joe" think it is???? Shocking.

[–] soratoyuki 30 points 11 months ago (12 children)

No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

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[–] Rapidcreek -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?

[–] mkwt -1 points 11 months ago

So you're saying that Biden had another motivation here: telling Netanyahu, "the US ain't nobody's bitch, and you don't tell me what to do."

[–] BlackPenguins 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Multiple polls had Biden ahead of Trump before this happened too.

[–] Blackbeard 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

USA because it took this many decades to merely abstain and and not veto.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They've been vetoing, the proper action would have been to vote to pass.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Abstaining has exactly the same effect.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Sends a different message though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The best time to abstain would have been decades ago, but the second-best time is now. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; this was a good choice.

Edit: The downvotes are hard to interpret. Do people think the US abstaining (and thus allowing the resolution to pass) was not a good choice?

[–] radicalautonomy 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

this was a good choice.

Abstention is, by definition, the refusal to make a choice. And if you are not against oppression, then you favor the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not how it actually works, though. They knew that by not opposing it would result in the measure passing. Choosing to abstain is a choice.