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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That isn't being disputed, it's just not a good excuse that someone can do it because everyone else is

[–] pjwestin 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The post literally says, "If you are the kind of person who shouts death threats in a strangers social media dms, you are no different than [the] kind of person who shouts death threats to a stranger in the steeet." But we have over a decade of data showing that they are very different people, that anonymity and online detachment cause otherwise normal people to behave this way, and that awareness of the effects of this behavior can curb it. I get that the post is trying to create a moral equivalence, but A) that is simplistic view of digital aggression and B) calling people assholes online just contributes to digital aggression.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's the anonymity which is the door opener. The assholeness was inside the whole time. Take away laws and law enforcement and then people will show their real faces. That's the point of the post.

This shares some similarities on how getting caught is a good deterret regarding crime rather than severity of punishment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The flip side of that is that non-anonymous speech can't be trusted: there is no reliable way to determine whether the speaker is speaking truly, or just trying to avoid unpleasant consequences.

[–] pjwestin 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Again, no, studies show that it's more complicated than that; it's not just that anonymity lets people be assholes, but that anonymous online interactions cause people to behave differently. There are a lot of theories on why, like that non-verbal communication makes people assume the worst intentions in others, or that typing on an app makes you feel like you're talking with yourself, but it's definitely clear that anonymous online interactions don't just enable negative behavior, they create it.

[–] PriorityMotif 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

People do the same thing when they're driving because of the pseudo anonymity you have when you're in a car.

[–] pjwestin 1 points 7 months ago

That makes a lot of sense and I never put that together. I wonder if there have been any studies comparing road rage and online hostility.