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Shuttering of New York facility raises awkward climate crisis questions as gas – not renewables – fills gap in power generation

When New York’s deteriorating and unloved Indian Point nuclear plant finally shuttered in 2021, its demise was met with delight from environmentalists who had long demanded it be scrapped.

But there has been a sting in the tail – since the closure, New York’s greenhouse gas emissions have gone up.

Castigated for its impact upon the surrounding environment and feared for its potential to unleash disaster close to the heart of New York City, Indian Point nevertheless supplied a large chunk of the state’s carbon-free electricity.

Since the plant’s closure, it has been gas, rather then clean energy such as solar and wind, that has filled the void, leaving New York City in the embarrassing situation of seeing its planet-heating emissions jump in recent years to the point its power grid is now dirtier than Texas’s, as well as the US average.

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[–] fidodo 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I trust nuclear can be built safely, problem is I don't trust the humans building, maintaining, and running it to not cut corners. I flat out didn't trust nuclear that's run for profit as shareholders will demand cost cutting to maximize profits, and I didn't know if I'd trust publication funded nuclear to stay properly funded.

[–] givesomefucks 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be capitalistic.

Having our energy grid be for profit is a ridiculous idea anyways.

And the Navy has been training nuclear engineers for decades, without any major accidents despite almost all of their reactors being shoved into ships and submarines and training takes 18-24 months and being offered to kids literally right out of highschool.

Nationalize the energy grid and require government certification/contracts fornuclear plant operators.

Hell, most Navy nuclear engineers would literally jump ship to that just to be off a ship. But loads more would sign if the pay/bonuses was in anyway comparable to what Navy gets.

Just because capitalism makes something impossible doesn't mean it's impossible. Just that it's incompatible with capitalism.

[–] fidodo 2 points 8 months ago

I'm aware, but, if we push for nuclear in the US right now, it will be for profit, and that's why I'm apprehensive. If we can keep it public and ensure proper funding, then I'm for it.