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A nuclear plant’s closure was hailed as a green win. Then emissions went up (www.theguardian.com)

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Shuttering of New York facility raises awkward climate crisis questions as gas – not renewables – fills gap in power generation

When New York’s deteriorating and unloved Indian Point nuclear plant finally shuttered in 2021, its demise was met with delight from environmentalists who had long demanded it be scrapped.

But there has been a sting in the tail – since the closure, New York’s greenhouse gas emissions have gone up.

Castigated for its impact upon the surrounding environment and feared for its potential to unleash disaster close to the heart of New York City, Indian Point nevertheless supplied a large chunk of the state’s carbon-free electricity.

Since the plant’s closure, it has been gas, rather then clean energy such as solar and wind, that has filled the void, leaving New York City in the embarrassing situation of seeing its planet-heating emissions jump in recent years to the point its power grid is now dirtier than Texas’s, as well as the US average.

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[–] givesomefucks 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

additionally when the older plants are well maintained they are much safer than they’re made out to be.

This one was leaking radioactive matter into the river upstream of NYC...

Even just primary fluid leaking into secondary is a giant issue.

Radioactive matter in the river means containment leaked to primary, then leaked to secondary...

If you don't know why that is so bad, you really shouldn't be talking about how safe nuclear power is. Because even tho you're right, you don't know why.

[–] eskimofry 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you don’t know why that is so bad, you really shouldn’t be talking about how safe nuclear power is. Because even tho you’re right, you don’t know why.

You're kind of gaslighting people by equating "this instance of a 70 year old badly maintained plant" to "how safe nuclear power is".

Besides, I am pretty certain some oil and gas lobbying prevented better maintenance here.

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 9 months ago

You’re kind of gaslighting people by equating “this instance of a 70 year old badly maintained plant” to “how safe nuclear power is”.

Where have I ever said nuclear power is unsafe?

You're inventing me saying something and accusing me of gaslighting because it disagrees with an opinion you happen to have.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is and how unlikely it is now for me to ever attempt to try and help you understand anything?