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Can’t a corporation just enter the space whenever they want to? Can’t they start or even buy out larger instances? Even if Lemmy does take off, wouldn’t this inevitably happen anyway if the space gets popular enough?

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[–] fubo 207 points 1 year ago (55 children)

Think about email. A lot of people use Gmail, Hotmail, or other big email providers. However, Oxford University can run its own email server for its own university community. The EFF can run their own email server for their own purposes. Google or Microsoft doesn't get to dictate to Oxford or the EFF how they run their email server; and they can't stand in the way of Oxford and the EFF sending email to one another.

[–] Idontreallyknow 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great example. Fedverse sounds like a space that corporations would have no interest in as there is no opportunity to create a monopoly.

[–] fubo 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That doesn’t really follow. Google doesn’t need to be able to create a monopoly over email to benefit from running Gmail, for example; consumer Gmail is basically a loss-leader for Google Workspaces, the money-making arm of Google Apps.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only viable way to control the Fediverse is an embrace, extend, and extinguish approach.

  • Join the Fediverse
  • Pour a ton of money and manpower on your instance so most people migrate to it because it works better.
  • Reach critical mass and defederate the others.
  • Proceed to screw your users.

Anything less and you become a Fediverse backwater instead of a monopoly.

[–] Labotomized 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds exactly like how they would think! Especially the reach critical mass and defederate from everyone else.

[–] Zeus 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Labotomized 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a great read. Thanks for linking that article - I had no idea about most of that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is what many expect is the goal of Meta’s forthcoming Thread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And harvesting data of course.

[–] fubo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you describe in detail what you're saying here?

[–] Valmond 1 points 1 year ago

Well they hoard data by hosting your emails? They surely feed all that stuff into their AI:s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

consumer Gmail is basically a loss-leader for Google Workspaces, the money-making arm of Google Apps.

Don't quote me on this, because I might be wrong, but I believe consumer Gmail is also used to build their personalized ad model for you, so they can show you ads you're more likely to click on?

[–] fubo 1 points 1 year ago

I believe they used to target ads based on email content, but they currently state that they don't.

These ads are shown to you based on your online activity while you're signed into Google. We will not scan or read your Gmail messages to show you ads.

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