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Children unintentionally shot and killed at least 157 people last year, Everytown says
(www.nbcnews.com)
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Yes. That's the only answer. Accommodate the gun fetish. Of course.
Must be hard to downvote me with one hand stroking a gun and the other down your pants.
So....don't teach children about gun safety?
Toddlers are shooting themselves and others. So maybe education needs to start in the maternity ward?
How about, and I know, it's crazy, but you could try not having guns in residential homes. It's insane, I know, but there's this really weird thing where the rest of the world manages it and their children (so bizarrely) aren't blowing their faces off on a regular basis
Nuts, hey...
Gun control would be nice but...we are talking about in the here and now. Right now....guns are in homes. We are suggesting we should at least do everything we can to teach children those guns are dangerous. You do get that right?
Thats....basically how this comment chain is going dude.
^see toddlers
So...just gonna gloss over everything else. Remove guns all together and, until we can get to that point, we must do absolutely nothing else to at least hopefully prevent these deaths?
Totes what I said, mate, totes. A+
But yeah get rid of the guns.
That would be nice. But right now we are trying to discuss something more realistic, something that could be done now. What do you believe could honestly be done NOW? Mandatory education about firearms or a total ban?
Ban and buy back. Education campaign about how crime rates are declining and owning a gun just increases the likelihood that you or someone else in your household gets shot by it, or your lovely trigger happy police force.
I'm really trying to wrap my mind around this. You are honestly opposed to teaching children that the guns that we currently have are dangerous?
Again... I'm not saying anything against banning guns. I'm just trying to discuss what we can do in the here and now before that.
My countrymen and women did not grow up with gun safety classes, but we did have guns. We got rid of the guns. Weeeeee!
And, again, nobody is saying we shouldn't get rid of the guns. It's just that they are here and right now there is no chance in hell they're going away anytime soon. We are trying to discuss what we can do in the meantime.
Let's come at it from this angle. We have guns in this country, and for now, they are just not going away. What do you believe is the harm in educating children about how dangerous they are?
Or... Maybe another talking point that will help you understand. Judging by your instance I'm guessing you're Australian? You guys are going very hard on education against tobacco. In a way that I truly applaud.
Why haven't you just banned it? Why are you educating children against tobacco when you could just ban it? Are you pro tobacco?
A very small percentage of children.
There are more age groups of children than just toddlers.
I personally support laws requiring gun owners to properly store firearms.
What're are the guns for though
For me: hunting mostly.
Talking to one right now.
(You can't set me up like that this is entrapment.)
I agree, throw the toddlers in the fire.
Abstinence only gun safety
Just don't let them know guns exist till they are 18, duh.
That drives me crazy too. You can look at the numbers, and see that abstinence only simply doesn't work, that kids in abstinence-only schools have sex earlier, have riskier sexual habits, are more likely to catch and spread STIs, and have higher rates of teen pregnancy. From a simple harm reduction standpoint, you'd think people would say, wow, we can actually achieve what we say our goals are by giving kids accurate advice.
I don't get why people want to treat issues like this instead of being pragmatic and looking at the outcomes.
Exactly....i was looking for a clever way to say that
Must be hard to argue against something that demonstrably works. You sound like the kind of person that would also argue that abstinence is the only thing to teach kids in school, since that's the only way to prevent pregnancy and STIs.
No other country has this problem. Is it because they teach gun safety to literal toddlers?
Yep, totally. People against guns are notorious for their backwards viewpoints. Venn diagram is so overlayed and round. Totally. Such stereotype, so common.
And yet, here you are, make the same kind of ass-backwards argument against something that has been demonstrated to work without attempting to undermine civil rights.
We often teach kids things directly as a cheaper solution to bad parenting.
I can remember lots of little songs about not eating things you find on the ground or staying away from needles/drugs. And every Canadian's favourite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijcoS8qHIE