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In the past, laminated glass was usually installed in the windshield, with side and rear windows being tempered only.

The difference is that tempered glass is per-stressed so that when it cracks, it shatters into many tiny and dull pieces. Laminated is the same thing, but with layers of plastic sandwiched with layers of tempered glass. Laminated glass will still shatter, but will be held together by the plastic layers.

In an emergency, small improvised, or purpose built tools meant to shatter tempered glass will be useless if the glass is laminated.

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[–] partial_accumen 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There is apparently a manual lever hidden underneath the button,

"hidden"

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It doesnt look marked to me. If someone saw a door like that they would have absolutely no idea that was a lever/button unless they read through the entire owner's manual. Which let's be honest, nobody does that these days.

[–] partial_accumen 3 points 7 months ago

Its not the best picture, but it also has finger holds underneath. For someone looking to pull something, this gets pulled.

[–] dotMonkey 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is a door handle ever marked?

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Usually manual release safety levers or buttons have red or yellow markings on them, yes. Sometimes they have a logo or icon to denote what they open, and sometimes they are marked with "PULL TO OPEN" or some other similar phrase.

[–] dotMonkey 1 points 7 months ago

Interesting, I didn't know that, I'll have a look in my car next time I get in it.

Does that only apply to doors than normally have an electronic way of opening them?

[–] Malfeasant 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I've seen plenty of internal trunk releases that are just an unmarked handle that pulls a cable...

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I am a professional mechanic, worked at several dealers. Nearly every car had a safety mechanism that was at least one or several of those. The only ones I didnt mention are ones that glow in the dark for trunk releases. But outside of cars that were built before mechanical safety releases were commonly incorporated in design, its not common to see mechanical safety releases that are completely unmarked. Some have a plastic cover, like the transmission neutral release, but they still generally have red/yellow/orange markings, text on them, or they glow in the dark.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It could be a massive red lever with "EMERGENCY OPEN" text on it and the Tesla haters would still find something to complain about.

[–] Blue_Morpho 1 points 7 months ago

This is about the rear door. The rear door manual override is under the carpet here:

https://images.app.goo.gl/MTFkjk8JPUu4iK7n7

The most recent update added a red latch. It's still in the bottom of the door pocket.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Now imagine you’ve been driving the Tesla for a long time and don’t ever use the manual release because you’re not supposed to so you don’t mess up the window. And then imagine you’re in a high-stress situation. That’s how having an unmarked backup can fail.

Plus, that handle doesn’t even look like a normal handle - I have never see a car where you pull up to exit instead of sideways away from the door.

[–] Blue_Morpho 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's the front. This is about the rear window. Show the rear door manual override.

[–] partial_accumen 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why would the driver of this car, which drowned, be sitting in the rear?

[–] Blue_Morpho 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The title of the article is about passenger/rear seats being hard to break.

[–] partial_accumen 1 points 7 months ago

Fair point, and no the rear does not have manual release. I wish it it.