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Three top nitrogen gas manufacturers in US bar products from use in executions (www.theguardian.com)

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Move follows Alabama’s recent killing of death row inmate Kenneth Smith using previously untested method

Three of the largest manufacturers of medical-grade nitrogen gas in the US have barred their products from being used in executions, following Alabama’s recent killing of the death row inmate Kenneth Smith using a previously untested method known as nitrogen hypoxia.

The three companies have confirmed to the Guardian that they have put in place mechanisms that will prevent their nitrogen cylinders falling into the hands of departments of correction in death penalty states. The move by the trio marks the first signs of corporate action to stop medical nitrogen, which is designed to preserve life, being used for the exact opposite – killing people.

The green shoots of a corporate blockade for nitrogen echoes the almost total boycott that is now in place for medical drugs used in lethal injections. That boycott has made it so difficult for death penalty states to procure drugs such as pentobarbital and midazolam that a growing number are turning to nitrogen as an alternative killing technique.

Now, nitrogen producers are engaging in their own efforts to prevent the abuse of their products. The march has been led by Airgas, which is owned by the French multinational Air Liquide.

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[–] captainlezbian 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or we could just not retaliate with execution. We could follow the evidence that execution doesn’t reduce crime rate or severity and to not make murderers of the state

[–] DreamlandLividity -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Its this flawed argument on repeat. You just start assuming that killing a murderer ("life for a life") is somehow automatically wrong and then use it to show death penalty is wrong.

Why is "life for a life" somehow unfair demand for the premeditated murderers? What is this based on? Or just repeating it because you heard it so often.

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Youre Right I’m just parroting the idea that killing is bad. Definitely not from a belief that punitive justice is ineffective at reducing crime, that we as a society must be better than our worst people, and a deep terror informed by history at the idea of a government having the power to decide to kill its own citizens.

Like seriously this is fucking gas chambers in Alabama and some people aren’t just horrified by where that might go?

[–] DreamlandLividity 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You mix two very different issues. Whether our corrupt governments should have the power to execute people, which they shouldn't but its not what this article is about. Also, since they had this power since like the beginning of written history, I kind of am too used to it to be horrified.

And if we are executing people, what the method should be. Electric chair is something that actually horrifies me. So if we at least get a 100x more humane method, it is a win in my book. Certainly not gonna loose sleep because it has association with Nazis. So does VolksWagen and Fanta.

[–] captainlezbian 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but nobody is mad that the Nazis were drinking fruit based beverages, our problem is that they were doing mass murder. And the method of gas was important to that because it was easier to stomach and scale.

[–] DreamlandLividity -1 points 8 months ago

The Nazis were also using trains to transport them because it was more efficient. Lets ban trains. They used guns to keep them in line. Ban governments from having guns. They used fences to keep them in camps. Lets ban fences.

There is no logic to this argument. Its just an appeal to emotion.