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Three top nitrogen gas manufacturers in US bar products from use in executions (www.theguardian.com)

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Move follows Alabama’s recent killing of death row inmate Kenneth Smith using previously untested method

Three of the largest manufacturers of medical-grade nitrogen gas in the US have barred their products from being used in executions, following Alabama’s recent killing of the death row inmate Kenneth Smith using a previously untested method known as nitrogen hypoxia.

The three companies have confirmed to the Guardian that they have put in place mechanisms that will prevent their nitrogen cylinders falling into the hands of departments of correction in death penalty states. The move by the trio marks the first signs of corporate action to stop medical nitrogen, which is designed to preserve life, being used for the exact opposite – killing people.

The green shoots of a corporate blockade for nitrogen echoes the almost total boycott that is now in place for medical drugs used in lethal injections. That boycott has made it so difficult for death penalty states to procure drugs such as pentobarbital and midazolam that a growing number are turning to nitrogen as an alternative killing technique.

Now, nitrogen producers are engaging in their own efforts to prevent the abuse of their products. The march has been led by Airgas, which is owned by the French multinational Air Liquide.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

If I decide I really want to kill you, what should be the minimal punishment?

Life in prison.

Murder is a legal term. Administering a death penalty is not murder, since it is not a crime.

Murder is not exclusively a legal term; it is also used in ethical/moral discussions, like how I used it. A government can decide legallity, but it cannot decide if something is moral or not, although most governments attempt to do so. What is moral or not is also not universal, and can vary across different cultures and time periods.

But don't go slandering people that disagree with you.

You mean like what you just did with this comment?

Keep in mind, in the US, there is a ~4% false conviction rate for the death penalty. That means that ~4% of people who get the death penalty are innocent.

Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1306417111

[–] DreamlandLividity 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I do remember about the 4%. That is why I don't support death penalty.

I am just honest about the reason why I don't support it, instead of pretending I am somehow morally superior for refusing to kill.

As for life in prison, that is up to everyone's values, whether that is equivalent. In my view, it is not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I am also honest about why I don't support it. I think killing people for any reason is wrong except for the case of a direct threat of violence (self defense). The 4% statistic is just another one of my reasons, but not my main reason.

[–] DreamlandLividity 0 points 8 months ago

I mean, you are free to subjectively think that and conform your own actions to that. Refuse to participate in anything death penalty related.

But unless you have any rational basis for it, I don't see why anyone else should care about what you think.