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US Secret Service investigating as cocaine reportedly found in White House
(www.theguardian.com)
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Well, Refined Cocaine didn't exist prior to 1860, and was mostly a sort of curiosity in the medical world for the next two or so decades. After that, it was marketed as an anesthetic for a few years.
Freud wrote a paper about the joys of recreational use of cocaine in 1884 (he was 24), and then struggled with addiction for the next 12 years.
Then Coca-Cola was created in 1886, and bottled for mass consumption shortly afterward. They removed the cocaine from the recipe in 1903...
Then the Harrison Narcotics act was passed in 1914, effectively banning cocaine and opium. Mostly based on racist fears that black people liked cocaine.
So, it's possible that some cocaine was in the White House as early as the 1880s, especially in some Coca-Cola, but the drink was considered low class, and cocaine was also a bit of a low class drug...
So yeah, It's very hard to say.
As to WW2 and beyond. Well, Meth was invented about that time frame. 1940s Germany, and the entire Nazi military were all addicted to meth in the form of Pervitin, the brand name that it was sold under. Pervitin was literally issued to infantry to let them march for days at a time, and was a huge part of the initial Blitz.
The Allied forces had their own versions of speed to issue to soldiers.
I kind of wandered into the weeds there...
See, it’s just this very type of strangely believable deep-dive, semi-spectrumy response that gives me a sense of cautious optimism regarding this new forum that we have here (apologies to the true pioneers).
I am both chagrined and encouraged by this thorough, inadvertently solicited response.
God bless you, friend.
I thoroughly enjoyed your word salad.
Wandered into the weed there?
The gold is always in the comments.
Weed would be another digression entirely. As a plant, it has a much longer history. And as a plant, it never really became the drug of the rich and powerful. Maybe because smoking too much causes introspection, which the rich and powerful cannot abide.
There's a lot of armchair psychoanalysis here. The rich and powerful seem to like uppers, because those let them think they're getting more work done. And they like alcohol as the social lubricant and memory suppressor that it is. At least those are the socially acceptable drugs. Even Meth is acceptable to them if taken in pill for rather than being smoked.
The downers all seem to be demonized. The refrain is that they make you lazy or some such bullshit. As if some of the most (admittedly misguidedly) productive times of my life weren't fueled by pot.
I got really into carpentry and stone carving for a time back in high school, and if YouTube had existed I would likely have gotten into metal casting as well. All to make some okay pipes and bongs. I'm sure I could do better these days, but was proud at the time.
Where can I subscribe to armchair alchemist and pharmacopeia please?
https://www.erowid.org/ maybe?
Cool site. Thx.
Just wanted to say nice username!
Thanks, I thought it was kinda funny when I registered it on the other site back in 2011 and figured I'd keep it over here with recent events.
Ah, so you knew what was up even way back then.