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[–] affiliate 65 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Many users called lawmakers' offices to complain, congressional staffers told Politico. "It's so so bad. Our phones have not stopped ringing. They're teenagers and old people saying they spend their whole day on the app and we can't take it away," one House GOP staffer was quoted as saying.

and they still voted 50-0. really tells you something about how much these politicians are willing to listen to their constituents.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (25 children)

It was a 50-0 to pass the commission and then go to the House floor for a vote and then the Senate for a vote and finally signed into law by the president unless he vetoes it, which is possible imo.

Honestly, teenagers and old people are the sorts of folks that need to be protected from themselves, I might just call in to my local representative to voice my support of forced sale, operating restrictions, or even outright ban.

EDIT: I sent him an email.

[–] ikidd 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Love to, I think the 5 Bn USD FTC fine was a little light considering no jailtime was given. I hope their recent lawsuits lead to breaking the company up again.

[–] affiliate 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

what are you even trying to say here? that it’s okay for politicians to ignore entire demographics? or that it’s only okay for them to ignore entire demographics if, ultimately, it’s left up to a different group of politicians to pass the law?

i don’t use tiktok or have any interest in the app itself, but it’s still very alarming to see a vote go through 50-0 despite a “nonstop” flood of calls opposing it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah honestly if a bunch of addicted teens and old people were calling me screaming that I can't take away their drug of choice when that's not even what's happening, and it's not being taken away just moved to where there can be more control on quality.... Then I would be really considering the damage this is doing to them.

I don't know if supporting the junkies being taken advantage of is the altruistic take that these "absolute freedom" supporters think it is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The fact that you guys just ate up that rhetoric without any hesitation... Like, you just happily believe it's a bunch of "addicted old people and teenagers"? Is this reddit? Did I make a wrong turn at common sense and critical thinking?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

It's not just teenagers and old people. That's just some bullshit rhetoric that you ate right up without question. Because of course you did. Millennials/middle age folk are abundant on TikTok as well as young adults.

The audacity of some of you to jump into action just to spite "teenagers and old people" is shameful. So easily manipulated.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It also tells you something about all the supposed gridlock in Washington that can magically evaporate when there's money and power to be gained from it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

From what I read, the calls actually evaporated opposition to the bill.

Which, I'm NGL, if you're worried about an app being used by a foreign adversary to encourage anti-social behavior in your youth, a bunch of people calling in acting like drug addicts getting their drugs taken away is only going to erase doubts.

It doesn't help that they'd even be more justified when it's known that it was caused by users getting pushed notified by Tik Tok to do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Encouraging people to contact their representatives and demand action? Congress clearly can't have this. How will they do their jobs if they are constantly forced to engage with their constituents?

[–] nialv7 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Call to action from, say, activist groups is very different from call to action from a billion-dollar company. This does make me really worried about how much influencer TikTok has on people ngl

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

How many of us stood up for net neutrality at the behest of Reddit?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

In my opinion, considering Tiktok's algo they had the best circumstance to notify a mix of their users more aligned with the actual electorate. The fact they ended up with the worst representation of their user base when it came to confirming the suspicions of politicians says everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are they "taking it away" though? Do normal people care about who owns it? Are they just worried about an unlikely ban?

[–] affiliate 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

you’re taking it as a given that bytedance will sell the app if this law passes. there is a chance that they won’t want to sell and then the app will be banned. (but i think this unlikely.)

also, if i’m understanding things correctly, there’s the possibility that they do sell and the app still gets banned. the article says

An app would be allowed to stay in the US market after a divestiture if the president determines that the sale "would result in the relevant covered company no longer being controlled by a foreign adversary."

depending on who the next president is, there’s no guarantee that they’ll say any sale will result in the company not being controlled by a foreign adversary. (although this past is just speculation.)

anyways. this bill will certainly raise the chances that the app will be banned in the US. (and it opens the door for other apps to get banned if the US doesn’t like the country they were developed in.)

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