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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/android
 

I can't root my phone because I don't have an image for it (Moto G73) although I'd like to, but for some reason my banking app thinks it's rooted and refuses to work. This happened just after I updated it, it wasn't happening before.

Edit: I'm regretting not getting the Motorola Edge 40 Neo, which also costs £250, but is slightly better in multiple ways, and seems like it has better root support.

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[–] ilinamorato 50 points 6 months ago (2 children)

More and more every day, I wish the Firefox Phone had survived.

[–] FlavoredButtHair 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Firefox had a phone? I wish Firefox would try again.

[–] ilinamorato 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They did. It was a project initially called "Boot to Gecko," about a decade ago; and the idea was to make a Linux kernel OS so lightweight that you were running web apps as close to bare metal as possible. There were intended to be no binary apps, only web apps running on open standards; though that didn't necessarily carry through as originally intended.

I agree. I think it was before its time and would be a real boon today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I can't remember much about it but I seem to remember that the actual hardware itself was very entry level which was part of the problem. It really would have done better to appeal to enthusiasts.

I get that it was marketed at third world countries, but I still think they would have done better had they had a western version with more up-to-date specs as well, if only to get the kind of market share that would encourage app developers.

[–] ilinamorato 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I read a retrospective written by one of the developers, and it sounds like they had the trouble that they could only get development partners for low-end devices (which kind of meant that they had to target developing countries) but they couldn't get companies like WhatsApp to make web apps that would run on Firefox OS (which meant that it was kind of a non-starter in those developing countries).

Couple that with some questionable priority decisions at the top of the project, and a major reshuffling of Mozilla's organizational aims near the end of the project, and it all just sort of fell apart. I do kind of wonder if it would have done better today, or maybe as a tablet or a Roku competitor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It kinda did survive. KaiOS is forked from Firefox OS, though it's more designed for Kinda-Smart feature phones in developing countries.

[–] ilinamorato 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, and that's cool, but it is significantly different from the original implementation (or at least the original idea) since it is a keypad-based device. You couldn't really flash it onto an Android handset, for instance, as I understand it.