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[–] Crack0n7uesday 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It was a unanimous decision and the precedent they set was that states don't have the right to declare who is and who is not a traitor, only the federal government can decide that. I don't like Trump, but the precedent needed to be set and I agree with the supreme court on this one. You can still try to prove he is a traitor in federal court, and then he would be knocked off the ballot in all states.

[–] VindictiveJudge 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, that part of the amendment is just horribly written. It reads like a rush job, which is probably was given it was written to remove/keep out former Confederates. There's no mechanism in there to determine guilt or any definition of what constitutes insurrection or rebellion. Seceding, forming a new government, and declaring war on the US is obvious, but it doesn't say what the minimum threshold actually is. The entire thing is just two sentences. This very comment has a similar word count.

[–] Crack0n7uesday 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was written that way to welcome back the confederates. This was a war where it was brother against brother, father against son, so it was written in a way to welcome back the south. Like "yeah, we kicked your ass, but we're still friends, we're only going to change things a little bit", and it has to be a super majority so anything less than 2/3's in both houses isn't enough. A super majority like that can impeach AND remove a sitting president. It could also recall a Continental Congress which has powers not used since the revolutionary war.

[–] BrokenGlepnir 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that was the majority opinion, but the concurring opinion. The majority was party lines and stated that no, federal Court is also not enough, only action by congress will count.

[–] Crack0n7uesday 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, if you get a super majority from both houses of Congress then it supercedes the president and the supreme court, but that does not happen very often.