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[–] Ghostalmedia 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I guess this is good considering that national data shows they get in a disproportionate amount of car accidents.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No it doesn't. That data was seriously flawed and even had an added disclaimer from the company saying it is solely the author's opinion.

[–] Ghostalmedia 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Looks like they used the same data that they use to provide insurance quotes, and then the article got popular, and they didn’t want to fight pissed off car manufacturers, so they chucked a disclaimer on the article.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Using it to provide insurance quotes would be appropriate. Using it to determine which vehicles crash the most is not.

Using their 'formula,' if I drive a Honda Civic and get rear-ended, insurance totals the car, and I use that money to go buy a Model 3, they will count me as a "Tesla crash statistic" because I'm getting a quote for a Tesla with an accident on my record. This is idiotic because A) I wasn't driving a Tesla during the crash, and B) I wasn't even at fault for the accident, yet they still count it as a Tesla crash.

Not to mention other issues with the article like Pontiac, Saturn, and Oldsmobile being some of the "safest" cars on the road even though those companies built shitty cars and went out of business 10-15 years ago.

The company put the disclaimer on the article because it's junk data and misleading conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Have a Y and pay $677.00 per 6-months for pretty good coverage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

That report listed stuff like "bicyclist collides with stationary parked and shut-off car" because they were super harsh on the assisted driving potential.

It's crap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Really? Every study I've seen shows the opposite

[–] Ghostalmedia 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Editorial Note: The content of this article is based on the author's opinions and recommendations alone.

That tells you all you need to know about this article.

[–] Tarquinn2049 -2 points 8 months ago

The difference is this is the data for human driving only, teslas just being fast vehicles alone is gonna push the rates of unsafe drivers up.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 1 points 8 months ago

Probably because you can't see out of the fucking thing.

You could hide an entire city behind those A pillars

[–] Bocky -5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

That’s just because these drivers actually have insurance report their crashes. Unlike all the Nissan Altimas driving around town with temporary tags and no insurance

[–] Revonult 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Interesting concept, kinda a psudo suvivors bias. The same trends should hold for other high end vehicles as well right?

https://insurify.com/car-insurance/insights/car-models-with-the-most-accidents-2023/

Article mentions Subaru has several turbocharged models on list. Higher Tesla crashes maybe related to EV's higher acceleration?

Edit: Added link and text

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I feel personally attacked

[–] Ghostalmedia 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That doesn’t explain why Telsa leads all brands, including brands with similar price points.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

A buddy of mine got an EV but had the cash and tested like 30. Kia, Hyundai, ToyotaHonda, BMW, Mercedes, Audi - everything! - and Tesla. Took him 3 months almost.

In his words: there are three main classes of EV: the consumer range from Kia to Honda, the sport range from Audi to BMW, ... And Tesla.

Tesla has all these problems like Musk, and a boring UI and all, but its assistance is still head, shoulders and belt ahead of anything else on the planet. The BeeMercAudis are neat, but, still ... no. Not even close.

And he was a Tesla hater! Hates their boring same-ness and ipaddery shit UI and lack of knobs, etc.

His arrives in May.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Based on a single article using junk science.

Another user right above you posted a different article and it doesn't even list a single Tesla in the top 10.