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The live action is dumbed down so much that the animated show is way more mature than the live action show.
I disagree, but it's fine, we can have different opinions.
It took me several years to finally watch the cartoon because I just couldn't stand the bad animation and goofy pseudo-anime style. And I'm someone who watches anime and cartoons. The story of ATLAB was worth it when I was able to look past that, but to this day I still dislike the style.
I give you the pseudo anime style, but how exactly is it badly animated?
Probably just used to more modern animated shows that look smoother and have more complex and nuanced backgrounds. I think ATLA still holds up, but it is definitely an older animated show, I mean it's still in 4:3 ratio.
Some battles and effects look nice, but 90% of the time the animation is really sloppy, really low frame rate, and poorly drawn. Even for the time, it was poorly animated.
Are we watching the same show?
It's no Lion King, but I wouldn't call it sloppy. The animation is simple, that's true. But it's funny you mention anime, because that's a typical anime problem, with often still images with only the mouth moving. That's because it's faster and cheaper, so they can focus their energy on the fight scenes. If it bothers you here, it should bother you in anime.
Again, I don't know what you mean. I'm literally watching the show as I write this. You can say that you don't like the art style. That's your personal preference. But poorly drawn just seems objectively untrue.
See, I would argue that modern shows are often poorly animated. If you compare earlier Simpsons episodes to newer ones, you can see a clear difference. I believe it happened when they switched to computer animation. The new stuff is cleaner, with a higher frame rate, but imo lacks the soul. There are probably countless of examples. Spongebob would be another one. Again, the show is not the pinnacle of animation, "poorly" is just not the right word. If you want to watch an actually poorly animated show, just watch Invincible.
What you might be seeing (depending on the source) is the exceptionally low release quality.
ATLA has notorious problems with interlacing, frameskipping, inverse telecine blending... if you watch a bad source, it looks like a low-res oversharpened slideshow.
I wouldn't say its bad though. The sequel series in particular... other than the ugly CGI, I can't even pause the show anywhere and say "wow, that looks hideous and lazy."
Its not just that. Some battle aninations are fluid while others have very few frames dedicated to them. The character expressions are exagerated and unrealistic, like a caricature of anime. But yeah, the CGI in the sequel must be the worst sin they committed.
ATLA is kinda immature and exaggerated in some places yeah (which is something way too many people overlook) but the second?
Missing frames? Exaggerated expressions? Outside of a few comical scenes, LOK much more subdued and refined. Most fights are meticulously detailed and not missing frames, even setting aside the realistic posing they do for both shows.
A lot (but not quite all) of the animation is 12p, but this is standard for anime, no?
I know because I went through parts of both shows frame by frame, trying to get training data... There are some sketchy parts Studio Pierrot did for Book 2, and all of Book 2 is interlaced, but other than I could hardly even find bad example frames.
LOK is much better in that regard, but sometimes it introduced comedic moments and animation in places that were supposed to be dramatic and thrilling instead. It was really odd. But the battles were generally very good.
True. I like some of the mixed comedy, but I wish both shows was darker where it needs to be dark (like the novels). In reality... they were Nickelodeon cartoons.