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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Implied by this: centrists see all this mainly as a financial matter.

[–] hglman 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Centrists are unwilling to accept change or inconvenience. This differs from conservatives who think things should go back to some sort of old way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's really impossible to know what you mean here, because conservative should mean to keep doing what works: They should be social democrats (what worked to build the US e.g. Nixon lol). So we shouldn't use that word any more. True conservatism would be more left wing than democrats today.

The GOP has become a reactionary or "paleo-conservative" which is really a misnomer too. What they really are now is a theocratic fascist party. But really they have no values at all except power and hate and inequality.

There are no real centrists, there is no center here. They are really corporatists who are willing to play politics in order to please the big capitalists or plutocracy. They love trump because they can keep cutting of left wing politics and not have a platform. In foreign policy they are fascist as well (american exceptionalism, a belief in inequality based on identity).

[–] hglman -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The gop are not the reactionary part, the DNC is. They are also centrists between the gop and a ghost of policies to the left.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think we're speaking different languages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We gotta stop callin them conservatives. These shits are trying to roll things back, not keep it as-is. They're the opposite of progressive: they're regressive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That would be reactioners, not conservatives. You guys also have problem of reactioners taking name of conservatives.

[–] hglman 0 points 4 months ago

American Centrist are reactionaries, American conservatives are not reactionaries. That is my point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

"If this were a real problem then Bill Gates would have fixed it but now."