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[–] cmbabul 28 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I swear to god how are all these tech billionaires that grew up as nerds not seeing what they are doing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

“What does any man with power want?”, asks the Oracle in The Matrix. “More power.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They want to actually do it and be the one to do so.

[–] just_another_person 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They know exactly what they are doing. They are all desperate to be in charge of our new AI powered overlords.

AI doesn't benefit anyone on this planet whatsoever except wealthy people at the end of the day. It only serves to oppress the majority of the populace otherwise, one way or another.

[–] cmbabul 4 points 8 months ago

The way it currently exists 100%, if the goal for using AI wasn’t profit above all it could be extremely useful for common humans. It probably never will be that but it could potentially be

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's totally unfounded statement. As in no proof of any statement whatsoever. I am sure luddites were saying similar things.

[–] just_another_person 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's basic economics, actually. The same way any other automation only serves to reduce human workforce and increase profits. You think factory automation serves to benefit the general masses somehow? What do you think all these robots are going be doing? Wandering around and helping the general public isn't profitable for the long list of wealthy individuals trying to make them a reality 🤣

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You wouldn't have the computer you're complaining from without hundreds of years of automation and tools making labor more efficient to make it happen.

Or, with the number of people on the planet, even 1% of the food it takes for you to not die.

[–] just_another_person 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

With humans having created these tools. Now the goal is to automate the humans away as much as possible. Complete shift from the past examples and experiences you've mentioned.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're drawing an imaginary distinction between exactly identical things.

AI is just another tool used by a human. Even an actual general AI is only a tool used by a human.

[–] just_another_person 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, and every expert on the subject is saying the opposite, but you know "the real" situation 🤦

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If someone is telling you AI is magic, they're not an expert.

They're a con man.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Agree these aren't the people I want doing this, but are you saying we should tuck heads in sand and just not build robots?

[–] Yawweee877h444 12 points 8 months ago

Agree with your comment. It seems most people are conservative about stuff like this due to fear.

I personally want the AI and the cool robot stuff, without hesitation. Our problem (imo) is our current corrupt, exploitative capitalist system. We need regulation that protects the entire populace, not just the billionaire and corporate leadership class. All these advancements should absolutely be explored, but for the benefit of all, and protections for everyone.

How we fix this though, I'm cynical. Which is why I respect people who are mostly afraid of the possible negative consequences.

[–] coolmojo 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I want Rosie the robot from the Jetsons, who vacuums and does the ironing. Instead we will probably get the RoboCop and the Terminator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sensing that were more likely to see robot cops (like from Elysium) than we are to see Rosie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think robot cops will be superior to human cops despite the movies. Some objectivity would be nice for a change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'd imagine they'd be all objective and not emotional, just depends on their programming and who programs them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Self defense is off the table, they never shoot first, code would need to be available to tax payer review.

[–] cmbabul 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, but there definitely should be a billion safeguards on it, and they should in no way be under the direct control of those already in positions of power

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Hard to build that many safeguards on something so new, safeguards need to develop with it. We've got asimov etc of course but thats not "billions"