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Cool does that mean they're gonna vote this time
There were the reason Biden won in 2020
Will they have a candidate who seems worth voting for? The answer to both questions is "probably not".
Old man vs literally Hitler who's also old. But both are equally bad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ /s
no one said they are equal
People say that constantly especially on lemmy
i've never seen that, so you'll forgive me if i don't believe you
...and that's why Democrats lose so damn much. Reading comprehension bro.
'old man's called Genocide Joe. Ok bud
Better than the other guy who will genocide Palestine harder and also genocide LGBT people here
Yeah. It’s the voters fault. Not the candidate. Not the DNC. Not the duopoly. Not the electoral college.
I've said this in another thread, but American youths just don't vote, unlike older folks. This is not a recent phenomenon, this goes all the way back if you look at voter turnout records stretching back from the 1960s.
Young Americans from across generations love to complain but don't do anything. In other countries, the youths are more energised and proactive. You'd notice their politicians are much younger, manifesting the youthful proactivity. American politicians are older on average, because older folks vote more, and voters prefer someone who is their peers whether they realise it or not.
Zoomers vote at higher rates than any previous generation at the same age
I’m saying this in this thread, politics isn’t just voting. Liberals think that voting is the only way to effect change, when it is the least effective, if not performative. Organize, create parties, movements, struggle, strike, protest.
If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.
Why not organise AND vote? It's not like there hasn't been other third parties elected before, especially at the local level.
Yes.
No.
Flotsam
Jetsam
Are you a strawman building machine, by chance?
Fallacy fallacy. Votes don’t grow on trees. You can’t catch a vote in a forest. It’s an idea. A social contract. It can be taken away, or limited.
If young people actually voted we would have Congress members that understand technology and are interested in fair voting systems. Instead geriatric and withered insider traders or desiccated obstructionist ghouls.
An estimated entire 1/3 of people eligible did not vote in 2020. Do you understand how much of Congress groups could have with those votes?
Meanwhile the insurrectionists vote religiously and they have managed to jam up Congress from doing anything at all. If sane, normal people don't vote the building fills up with clowns.
I’m gonna vote so hard they might give me 2 stickers.
If only there was a way we could put candidates in position to enact the change we want…. Hmmmm… Seriously, like… What if we created a system where we the people do something… I don’t know- choose their favorite candidate to do these things in a competition of sorts to see who gets to lead the country…
What should we call it?
"Fantasy"
So you’re saying voting doesn’t work?
Not at all. Voting is defensive. Activism is offensive. We vote for the least worst candidate put forth by a major party in national level elections that stands a chance to win. All we need that person to do is stay out of the way. Then we vote for super progressive loval candidates (school boards, city council, etc).
Council communism? Les Go!