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[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I'm disappointed that most people seem to treat kids as subhuman, not needing the basic right privacy and freedom that they want for adults so much.

[–] jerrythegenius 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Because never in my entire childhood did I feel like a child. I felt like a person all along - the same person that I am today. I never felt that I spoke childishly. I never felt that my emotions and desires were somehow less real than adult emotions and desires."
—Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's important to note that a big part of that book is repeated evidence that Ender is not a "normal" child. He is heavily implied to have murdered one of his bullies before he was ever pulled out of society and into training (where he explicitly kills another bully).

[–] jerrythegenius 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah that quote's from the foreword, he's talking about himself

[–] Infernal_pizza 25 points 7 months ago

They don’t want the right to privacy and freedom for adults either though. Sure they might say they do if you ask them but as soon as they’re mildly inconvenienced by a protest or someone mentions children are in danger they’re all in favour of spying and censorship laws

[–] CaptainSpaceman 21 points 7 months ago

This is a horrible truth. Treating kids as though their opinion matters is considered insanity.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Do people even use the term young adult anymore?

Infantising of adults I think is a huge issue we have in society.

It was the case that 16 was defacto adulthood in years gone by. Now I hear people saying you aren't an adult till 25 or 30! If there are 25 year old wandering around that aren't adults it's a failing of the parents and society.

In school when we hit ~16 we got treated entirely differently, the teachers talked to us instead of parents, we was in control of our time. They joked with us. It really made me grow up because I got treated like a grown up.

Same thing with scouts and rugby when I was younger, being pushed to be responsible made me grow. As eduction improves overtime we should be making more capable 18 year old not less.

*when I use the term young adult I mean ~16. Apparently young adult can also mean 18-25 but I've never seen it used in that context before.

[–] feedum_sneedson 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's more of an American thing I think. A 20-year-old child, I've literally seen that phrase used. Mental.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

with modern science, we have learned that the prefrontal cortex hasn't fully developed until around age 25. does that mean you're a child at 24? no. but you are adolescent, and we should have some cognizance about that

[–] feedum_sneedson -1 points 7 months ago

I have ADHD, I don't think mine will ever fully develop.

[–] Alpha71 -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you cannot behave like an adult by the age of 24 there's something more wrong with you than your prefrontal cortex.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is not about behaviour, it's about brain functions. Humans brains under the age of 25 function in a different way, because they are not fully developed, no matter what behaviour people learnt to show.