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[–] erranto 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have been following the DMA closely, and so far it has been a big disappointment, just as I expected.

The way the EU approaches this walled garden problem, is to try and offer ways for other competitors to tap into the user base of the bigger players instead of trying to allow all EU citizens to chat with any other EU citizen who uses META Products regardless of their host platform. meaning "us" people who wish to self host an xmpp or Matrix servers and chat with facebook friends, It won't be straight forward or entirely possible for us to do so. unless maybe by doing a KYC with META. and signing up very stringent service agreements.

Meta will be creating all sorts of hurdles the DMA laws will allow them to, to cripple interoperability, from making other plateform signing up to special permissions from Meta, to hiding interoperability settings and making them opt-in, and building a scary rhetoric why you shouldn't be allowing other people outside of META to get in contact with you. There are some valid concerns, but I suspect Meta will implement the most spiteful procedures they can get away with, then spin up a rhetoric about proving their users being massing against interoperability.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's funny how a few short years ago both FB and Google ran with jabber and jingle and we were accidentally chatting between one another.

Seems they just need to roll the code back and they're set.

Makes the upcoming spite just a little more bitter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Messages on OSX (pre-iMessage) supported ICQ and jabber too if I remember.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yahoo and MSN too, IIRC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The way the EU approaches this walled garden problem, is to try and offer ways for other competitors to tap into the user base of the bigger players instead of trying to allow all EU citizens to chat with any other EU citizen who uses META Products regardless of their host platform.

Probably because of spam? I don't think you can open up all the communicators to every self hosted server there is. It would be a disaster.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I don't think I ever got spam from any jabber server even when google and Facebook were running them. You still have to opt in to messages from something. If I had to guess ,I'd guess every chat service is still an xmpp server under a surface level encryption.