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Hello. Many of the older thinkpads were regarded as being peak for the ability to repair and easily see into them at both the hardware and software levels.

I was wondering, what PC, if any, is similar in this regard? Aside from building your own PC ofc. Any opinions are welcome. Thank you.

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[–] SpaceNoodle 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] anamethatisnt 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just carefully read the manual for the model you're interested in. Switching out a keyboard on T14s Gen1 is hell, as an example.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, it'd be easier to list the parts you don't have to remove.

[–] anamethatisnt 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And with how easy it has traditionally been to do that same replacement on ThinkPad T-series I was shocked the first time I encountered it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

holy shit, it's not just 4 screws anymore?

[–] anamethatisnt 1 points 11 months ago

The answer is that it depends on the model and that you can't trust the T anymore, the T14 Gen3 (note that it's T14, not T14s) is as easy as always:
https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t14_gen3_p14s_gen3_hmm_en.pdf

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not really true any more. The build quality isn't as good as it used to be and the upgradability has suffered too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While I agree, it's hard to find a cheap and reliable laptop that's not a thinkpad. The keyboards have suffered and some of the models are harder to repair. But they're still spill proof, tough, and have lots of ports. I don't regret my thinkpad t14 gen 3 purchase. I might get a thinkpad t14 gen 2 soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The models are getting imposible to repair. Everything is plastic and isn't designed to be taken apart. It's lenovos fault, their build quality is crap across the line. Of all the computers I've fixed (which is a lot), lenovos are by far the worst to deal with

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

no fucking way chat is this real