4 pane comic of dolan on the left and spooderman on the right
pane 1 (dolan): cum join opensurce cummunity!
pane 2 (spooderman): shure! how joyn?
pane 3 (dolan): Here discord! (with discord logo)
pane 4 (spooderman with tears in eyes): y u do dis?
It's good?
It's terrible for secure/private communications, it requires hacks that violate the TOS and EULA to modify the client to get rid of ads and change themes, it's not FOSS, and it locks features behind a paywall...
But it does what skype already did, so I'm glad we all have to migrate to the new fad site that strips even more of our dignity and privacy every 10 years that'll die anyway because it offers nothing and has a terrible business model.
And forums was very good for secure communications?
It really isn't. At least not for what most people try to use it for.
it makes me download 5 updates whenever i launch it then it looks just as shitty as before
It's better. Not good. Better than other tools, at least in the eyes of the many people using it. But as I stated at another post, to me this speaks to the fact that we need better FOSS alternatives for whatever purposes discord is used. I don't like Discord either, don't get me wrong! But so many people using it means something's missing and I don't think it cab solely be explained by the lack of knowledge of existing solutions but at least partly by the existence itself.
Matrix is there :p Ready to use (i think it's missing call and video options)
its missing all my friends inside of my computer though!
Convince them :-)
It needs to be a big wave of migration, rather than convincing one individual at a time. Discord needs to shit the bed while there's a tolerable/better alternative we can all agree on.
Tbh I don't see that happening with matrix anyway. Even with discord going to shit.
Every platform that needs a guide is too complicated for the common folk.
This goes also for Lemmy. The users on Reddit that stayed either didn't care about the whole API stuff or didnt understand the issue.
Hell even I use it sometimes because the content here is sparse and I don't have any meaningful to contribute as a post (not even a repost lol)
We are the exception and putting up with reading a bit and then deciding where to start the camp.
Discord, FAANG, streaming sites. All of them and more are simply to register, login and then use. At best you will set up 2FA.
Most of the folks I know (even my boss of an IT company) do not register 2FA and if only because they are forced to (Google and MS/O365 does it for example).
I probably see another (commercial) platform rising before Matrix will become popular.
It's harder for regular folk to move and they may not (yet) have an issue with what we may see, but regular folk would tolerate anything and tolerate it forever? They just have a different line which companies cannot cross.
I think (and admittedly, I hope) every proprietary software is destined to shit the bed due to the irresistible temptation to make the user's experience worse for increased profit. If there's no alternative then users have no choice but luckily many of us will even create useful software just as a passion. You may be right that we just have not created software aimed at them because it's other tech people who give feedback/contribute.
the ironic thing is that basically the only thing that needs to happen for matrix to have that moment is some startup company to host a server much like discord, and then create a front end.
It's literally something they're capable of doing, and it would totally work. The ENTIRE backend is already done, they can even help contribute to matrix as well. The value is the customer base, not the open source code, so it's not like it's going anywhere.
thats like saying "fix the government"
lol
For video calls, there is Jitsi integration.
Including screen caption?
Yes, I’m pretty sure.
uhh sure buddy
Literally the most popular community platform. People are clearly choosing it because there are much better alternatives out there
"millions of flies can't be wrong!"
Cope
Do you just not understand the quote?
It's bloated, filled with features no one needs for straight-forward work, has a somewhat obtuse UI and is buggy as hell. I don't like Matrix much more than Discord. But even it has far fewer problems. I don't know in which universe Discord is considered as 'good'.
People act like the alternatives are any better but they really aren't. Sure don't get me wrong it sucks that you typically have to scroll through useless info to find what you're looking for, but I put that on the server owner, you see the same issue on most forums too. Discord brings huge audiences that you wouldn't normally see in small communities. It's free, easy to setup and access, has a mobile app with toggle-notifications(and maybe just my settings but I've never gotten an ad notification or anything I haven't purposely toggled). People here are acting like you have to start using it as your primary messaging app and that you can't just take your messaging to another platform if your worried about chat logs.
There's zero way dishes would become so popular if users didn't like it.
The fact that it has chat, voice, streaming, automation, accessible api and oauth.
I mean please, these foss people can downvote all they want, but it's a good application for communities.