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You can be a Marxist-Leninist and not support the cultural genocide of the Uyghurs.
Yep. A Tankie is someone who claims to be leftist but then defends all actions by governments and countries who claim to be leftist too.
Tankies don't even need that. They just need the country to not be part of NATO and its allies. See their support for Russia, despite Russia being straight-up right-wing authoritarian with no pretence to leftism.
Especially since Russia is hyper capitalist. Their oligarchs put US CEOs to shame.
All governments should be criticized, even AES countries. The slur “tankie” is unhelpful and doesn’t help to educate or bring others to your side. Marxism, Leninism, Maoism and even Anarchism should be criticized and questioned, like any other ideology.
Tankie is not "when questions America"
I'd hardly call it a slur. And that's exactly the problem with tankies and conservatives alike. They refuse to criticize their favorite government.
Any word can be a slur, it depends on the context of how it’s used. Get it “rocket scientist?” Unless you were alive for the Soviet occupation of Hungary in 1956, it’s a slur.
You can criticize the authoritarian nature of the ideology, or the rabid dogmatism. Using “tankie” is the easy way to dismiss an opinion without offering a countering opinion.
"slur" LMFAO
Okay pinko commie. Lol
"You cant be a marxist and support genocide" is a better way to put it
No, you can't.
A Stalinist or a Maoist, sure.
The part I like is that nobody making noise about it actually cares about the Uyghurs. If they lived in anywhere other than China there would be calls to bomb them for being Muslims
True. They were dealing with Muslim fundamentalism. You can only improve the material conditions of a cult so much. Their methods should be criticized, but thinking capitalist countries would act differently is foolish. Just look at Gaza. What naysayers want to do is expose the hypocrisy, which is fair, without offering any solutions.
You can be a Capitalist and fully endorse it, too. Sort of the joke in all this. Liberals will kick and scream and cry about China, then roll up to their local retailer and fill their baskets with foreign made goods.
Maybe you're feeling spicy and telling everyone you'll buy exclusively from sweatshops in India or Indonesia, as though Modi's Hinduvistas don't have blood on their hands and the Jakarta Method means nothing.
But, at the end of the day, we'll permit any amount of genocide, cultural or otherwise, if it means getting rock bottom labor rates from the other side of the planet.
The hypocrisy is not lost on me. I’ve never read the Jakarta Method. Vincent Bevins has a newer book, “ If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution.” It examines the horizontalism in recent mass movements and the prefiguration, or lack of, in protests since the Arab Spring. He recently did an interview on Upstream that was really interesting.
Adhering to Marxist Leninism aka Stalinism makes you a bad person. Drop that Leninist crap and seize the means of production with your fellow workers.
What’cha gonna do after? How d’ya maintain control? Lenin, wrote about it.
Everyone else- “Not that way!”