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[–] mlg 15 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Stop using GNOME as de facto default standard. Fr I despise this crap

I seriously don't understand how anyone from windows is going to find stock GNOME even remotely intuitive or useful.

What kind of sick bastard thought "Yeah you know what, people don't need minimize and expand buttons."

And then on top of that, they put in the most basic default modern android chromeos looking shell/menu as if this is some mobile OS that runs all its apps on the JVM and that everyone knows trackpad kung fu.

For such a "simple" desktop, it eats through ram like it's KDE with all the fancy animations enabled.

Frickin Compiz solved the problem of performance and features over a decade ago. Use the god damn thing. If you need wayland, then at least KDE please.

If you're coming from Mac, only then will GNOME feel somewhat familiar because of the shell. Otherwise, please just make the download either an ISO with several DEs or a menu to select the DE first. Or at the very least, make a better default GNOME setup.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I seriously don’t understand how anyone from windows is going to find stock GNOME even remotely intuitive or useful.

GNOME is a very easy transition from MacOS, however. There are even themes to make it almost indistinguishable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Gnome is literally the only usable DE right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

If that's true, it's very good we use a wm.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Gnome is incredibly annoying to use for me. KDE is so much better.

[–] ikidd 7 points 10 months ago

The truly awful one is "default the cursor on the save dialog to the Search input box, NOT the filename box". I install Gnome every once in a while to check it out, and the second I encounter that dialog still behaving like that, I rip the whole marianne right out.

Like what insane monster thinks that's reasonable?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

You didn't even mention the worst part, you can't change the default terminal emulator.

[–] YourMomsTrashman 4 points 10 months ago

I do like gnome for how out of the way it stays. It's easy for new users to understand its lack of distractions and start to actually just use software on it. It's got its target audience.

I'm not saying it can't be done better. Cinnamon, my current personal choice, does most of the same things right.

I haven't used KDE much because of graphical issues on my device, but it seems like a nightmare getting workspaces or gestures set up. It seems like the polar opposite of 'distractionless', where you can spend hours learning and/or getting lost in a maze of submenus. I understand that's an appeal to some.

I want to love KDE, and I might retry sometime soon, but as a casual it does make me appreciate what gnome is doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

@mlg @tet my man can not let someone have their DE in peace

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

True true, plasma the default or XFCE like is used on Mint would be way better

[–] AnUnusualRelic 2 points 10 months ago

Kde doesn't use much ram. It hasn't done so for ages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You made me chuckle :) True, if coming from macOS, Gnome can be familiar enough but the defaults are terrible. Even those used to Macs need to install/enable the basics like maximise/minimise buttons etc. I don’t understand why even a Gnome centric distro like Fedora doesn’t come with Gnome Tweaks installed by default… Let alone the fact that usually the average user will also install a bunch of extensions. That is why Ubuntu is arguably the one doing the better job out of the box: their Gnome is actually useful from the get go.