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I have a lemmy.ml account and i didn't know that they were bad . I created this account after seeing that post .( I am not into politics as you can see if you visited the account i have put in my bio ) so is that true ?

-Ca. someone explain like what are the lemmy devs political stance ?

-Is lemmy as whole affected by it because i think the two main guys who hold all the cards are the ones with these opinions ,like do they have any control on lemmy as whole in anyway ? Or just the instance ?( I know if they are really bad we can fork lemmy)?

-Is feddit.ch good in these aspects ?

-Are they even really bad or do everyone have different opinions ? The things i consider bad and not polical stance are : for instance i just don't like trump because he is against t lgbt and being racist etc. Which are geniunly bad in my opinion and not just difference in opinions .

  • i know this is more than one question but please answer as much as i can and when talking politics talk like you are explainining politics to a five year old .

  • If this isn't the right sub i apologise please don't just down voat me to hell atleast explain where i should move it and i will do that

  • Thanks in advance will read each and every reply and updoot and reply as much as i can .

EDIT : And if they are that bad why aren't anyone forking it ? It's not like they are carrying the whole thing . Everyone is contributing .

  • Also if the dev's want to explain their sides i would like to hear it .
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[–] AlmightySnoo 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

Can someone explain like what are the lemmy devs political stance ?

They're tankies, ie radical communists who support authoritarian regimes like North Korea and the CCP, and fully support Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The devs also onboarded someone who openly said many times on October 8th that "all Israelis are valid targets", "anything that moves and isn't Palestinian is a valid target" and "there's no such thing as an Israeli civilian" and he's still in their team. On their own instance lemmy.ml (their choice of the .ml TLD is a reference to Marxism-Leninism), if you mention the Tiananmen massacre you get banned for "orientalism", and if you say that Hamas are terrorists you also get banned for "bothsidesing (sic)".

Does that leave a stain on Lemmy, the open-source project? Yes, for sure, it leaves Lemmy with a very questionable governance, and weird decisions like the absence of any prioritization of work on moderation tools and the very weird and completely random fact that they suddenly disabled sign-up captchas last summer leading to a bot infestation of most instances. Coincidentally, tankie instances like lemmygrad and hexbears rely on brigading, bots, and cyber-harassment to spread their poison, and strong moderation tools would hinder them a lot.

Now does that make it impossible for Lemmy to succeed? No, it's again an open-source project, and it can be forked away from the tankies at any time. In fact, there's even a highly credible rewrite in Java currently whose goal is to be 100% API-compatible with Lemmy: https://sublinks.org/ (see the announcement here: https://lemmy.world/post/11005411 )

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The link doesn't load for me will try later .

[–] AlmightySnoo 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The lemmy.ca link needs to be opened inside a browser so that you see the thread on that instance. If you try to open it on an app like Voyager it will probably try to redirect you to your local instance, but the problem is that some instances purged it, probably because it quotes literal calls to violence.

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