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[–] takeda 115 points 10 months ago (24 children)

I think the difference with the first 5 is that a manufacturer sets the price, scalpers purchase it by that price and sells it at a much higher one.

The house price just fluctuates continuously and when the "investor" or "scalper" purchases it, it was available at that price for everyone (or did he purchase it from another scalper?)

Yes, the problem is the high prices of houses, but to reduce it we need to either increase supply (encourage building more, perhaps changing zoning laws to allow more homes etc) or reduce demand (increase interest rates (that though make it harder for regular people), restricting corporations from purchases, banning Airbnb (yes, they drive prices up, and if you use them, you are contributing to it), penalizing if unit is not occupied (though enforcement of this will be hard), or banning foreign investors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (7 children)

restricting corporations from purchases, banning Airbnb (yes, they drive prices up, and if you use them, you are contributing to it), penalizing if unit is not occupied (though enforcement of this will be hard), or banning foreign investors.

Agreed, we should be doing all of those things. Corporations should not be able to own any kind of housing at all, and multi unit buildings should be under non-profit co-ops.

And to penalize unoccupied housing, we should have a georgist taxation system.

[–] throwwyacc 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd agree that corporate ownership is necessarily bad If you want to rent an apartment because you don't want to buy into a co-op then how do you go about this? Someone needs to own the apartment to rent to you Personally I don't mind if that initial investment comes from a person or a corporation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Could you rent from the co-op at cost without buying into it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's how a lot of co-ops works. Or maybe it's called non-market rental. I don't remember the exact name but it's definitely a thing.

Either way, landlord parasites are not needed.

[–] throwwyacc 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who are you paying? Other owners of the apartment? So they put in extra up front so they can rent to you? If so do you get to pay back their initial investment over time? If it's non profit does that mean they can't take anything in excess of what they paid or do they get payed x amount over the top?

I'm fine with co-ops generally but when it comes to rentals I just don't see how you'd make a "not for profit" rental But I mean if someone wants to set one up and prove me wrong that'd be cool. In theory nothing is stopping them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I was actually asking a question. So anyhoo I just Googled it and it's called a "zero equity co op" if you're curious.

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