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[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most of what you’re saying don’t contradict progressivism.

How do you unify the absolute obedience to God with a secular society? How do you unify strict adherence to all the commandments with a secular government? How do you unify god ordained leadership with democracy?

The things that do, I would say from the other reply to you are pretty controversial interpretations or contexts

Very well. Show me what verse I am wrong about and the correct understanding. Then explain how you determined that and how you determines that Christian leaders and thinkers have been so wrong for so long about the meaning of these passages?

I’m not a Christian, but I’m not going to bury my head from seeing how progressive their namesake was.

Which is why he spoke out in support of the LGBT, religious tolerance, and against slavery? Oh wait, he didn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How do you unify the absolute obedience to God with a secular society

Render unto Caesar? Jesus' preaching seems clearly to favor things like welfare and social sharing over blasphemy laws. He directly broke the religious mandates of his people in favor of helping those in need.

Very well. Show me what verse I am wrong about and the correct understanding

Part of my objection is that many of us couldn't even figure out what verses you meant. Name a verse that clearly shows Jesus must support the political Right and then we can discuss it.

Which is why he spoke out in support of the LGBT, religious tolerance, and against slavery? Oh wait, he didn’t

It might surprise you, but Jesus didn't live in 20th Century America. With that in mind:

LGBT - This is literally why I argue that Christians inject anti-gay rhetoric. He DIDN'T speak out about how to treat gay people in an empire where homosexuality was largely tolerated. Short of him turning to the camera and starting to comment on video games, one wouldn't expect him to talk about gay rights, or abortion, or any 20th century comedy.

religious tolerance

While he tried to convert pagans, he was accepting of them in a smaller region where they were largely outcasts. Pagan influences are a large part of why Christianity doesn't look like Judaism-plus-plus. The Jewish people were ruled by a pagan empire, and yet again we have no speech against it.

against slavery

In this one you might have a point. But I think you're stretching if looking at it as an outsider. Through all the books of progressive teaching, focusing on the fact he fails to take the time to condemn slavery seems like you're showing your hand if it's your reason for rejecting his general progressivism.

Unlike Christians, I don't think Jesus was perfect. I'm convinced if he were alive running for office, he'd be Far Left.