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Just wait until you've heard about the war crime that is Ohio Valley-style pizza

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Detroit style is the best, fight me.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Detroit pizza is so fucking good. New York pizza is a greasy flap of falling toppings and Chicagoans will be the first to tell you chicago deep dish is an overrated cheese pool in a piecrust

[–] BigilusDickilus 20 points 9 months ago

Chicago's thin crust/tavern pizza is far better than deep dish. That's what they should be promoting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

You are so fucking right.

[–] KuroiKaze 2 points 9 months ago

I'm from Chicago and you don't know anything about pizza. Chicago style Pizza is wildly popular for a reason, it is incredible.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I never heard of Detroit style but I think it looks very similar to what I would call a baking tray pizza (Blechpizza) in Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Pretty similar, yeah.
Big difference would be that the Detroit pizza is a fair bit greasier, and the cheese goes to the edge so there's no visible crust.
It basically makes it so that the dough is fried rather than baked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Yes quite similar looking

[–] aidan 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, not really. Detroit style has a much thinker crust, which is sort of what makes it unique.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is "thinker" both thinner and thicker?

[–] aidan 3 points 9 months ago

Lol, yeah lets go with that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

We call this style of pizza 'deep dish' here in Detroit which, I suppose, is just another name for the baking tray its cooked in. Though as the other commenter said, the deep dish allows you to cover it with cheese right up to the edge, which usually ends up dark and crunchy where it touches the pan.

I've known people to fight over the corner pieces and I think it was Jet's that has a whole thing with an "8-corner pizza" (as in, two smaller pizzas in a box-shaped trenchcoat, cut into quarters so that every piece is a corner piece)

[–] johannesvanderwhales 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That looks like what's called a grandma pie in the NY area.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thick, crispy, cheese-overloaded crust, that shit is awesome. I still think sauce-on-cheese is freaking stupid, but aside from that it's a 10/10.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I am born and raised in metro Detroit and the only place I think I've seen this "sauce on cheese" you speak of is just now, in the ultra staged photos that came up when I searched "detroit-style pizza" to figure out what you meant

You're right, this is blasphemy. Let the record show that this is not at all ~~authentic to Detroit~~ what makes it a Detroit-style pizza

[–] dpkonofa 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I don't believe you. I'm also born and raised in Detroit and you're only faking being a Detroiter if you haven't had Jet's Pizza, Buddy's Pizza, or Nikki's Pizza in Greektown. All 3 places are well-known in the metro area for their pizza and all 3 of them serve it sauce on cheese. That's what makes a Detroit Pizza a Detroit Pizza. There's also Shield's Pizza which is also sauce on cheese but they weren't in "Detroit" proper for years until 2019 (even though they originally opened in Detroit).

Did you grow up in the suburbs or something?

Edit: Shield’s and Buddy’s are the original Detroit pizzas. Anyone who tells you they know anything about Detroit pizza that hasn’t tried them is lying to you.

For the posers coming in here trying to redefine the classic, even Wikipedia knows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza. Note the image descriptions too:

"Detroit-style pizza showing typical lacy cheese crust edge and sauce on top"

"Detroit-style pizza showing sauce on top of some of the toppings, lacy cheese crust, and cheese to the edge"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I mean just look up jets deep dish and not a single image that comes up has any sauce over the cheese. That's how my deep dishes have always come from there or anywhere else. Haven't eaten at Buddy's and haven't heard of Nikki's or Shield's. I said metro Detroit so yeah I grew up in the suburbs around Pontiac but I didn't realize that invalidated my opinion and made me a "fake detroiter" lol

Edit: also what makes it Detroit pizza is that it's cooked in a deep square dish with little to no bare bread on the outside edges, not the toppings or sauce arrangement. You can take that or leave it and it's still detroit-style.

[–] dpkonofa -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I mean... Pontiac is not Detroit so yeah. If you haven't even heard of the original Detroit Pizza, Shield's, then you're not a born and raised Detroiter. You're a born and raised "Pontiacan".

And no, what makes it a Detroit-style pizza isn't just that it's cooked in the square dish (which was originally an oil or drip pan). A classic Detroit-style pizza is cooked in the square, deep dish with the sauce under and on top of the cheese. It's called a red top and the sauce is added in strips. I don't need to take or leave anything. I'm not taking lessons on Detroit pizza from someone who wasn't even born and raised in Detroit.

Edit: This place is worse than Reddit when it comes to people not knowing what the eff they're talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza

"Detroit-style pizza showing typical lacy cheese crust edge and sauce on top"

"Detroit-style pizza showing sauce on top of some of the toppings, lacy cheese crust, and cheese to the edge"

The original pizzas from Buddy's and then Shield's were red tops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

lol sorry I didn't realize you were the official gatekeeper of who/what is or isn't Detroit. I guess I'll just ignore all of the local news networks that refer to my area as metro Detroit and the rest of the world that will say I'm from Detroit and talk to me about Detroit when I point my city out on a map. I'll just take your word for it that I don't belong here since I didn't come from your specific neighborhood.

Not to mention all of the pizza I've had, literally from the first place you personally named as having Detroit-style pizza...

YOU don't have to take or leave or believe anything. Really not sure why you're centering yourself in this conversation like that. Neither the world nor the detroit area revolves around you personally and I'm not about to take food lessons either from someone with their head so comfortably shoved up their own ass...

[–] dpkonofa -5 points 9 months ago

Why would anyone take you seriously when you can’t even understand that Pontiac and Detroit are two different cities?

Just because people don’t know where Pontiac is doesn’t mean it’s suddenly the same thing as Detroit, especially when we’re discussing food from that specific city.

The only person with their head shoved somewhere is you, buddy. Don’t be clowning about our culture when you have no idea what it even is.

[–] Telodzrum 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Jets absolutely does not do sauce on cheese. Calling bullshit in your “born and raised” claim, son.

[–] dpkonofa -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m sorry that your Jets sucks. The classic Detroit is a red top.

[–] droans 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's Chicago pizza. Detroit has cheese on top.

[–] dpkonofa -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

False. It’s a red top with 3 stripes across the top.

Tell me you’ve never eaten a classic at Buddy’s or Shield’s without telling me.

[–] theachievers 3 points 9 months ago