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Despite the bad press, half of America is still considering an EV or hybrid car — they just want them to be cheaper
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2024
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Everytime ev's come up everyone's a fur trapper in the himalayas that needs to make pilgrimage over 500 miles every other day.
It's not that you need 500km every day, it's that you need 500km often enough to make the average affordable ev with a 150km range impractical. Until there is a reliable charging infrastructure in place, people need a vehicle that can accommodate their longest trip, not their average trip.
150km is the unreasonable part. The AVERAGE affordable EV, especially not Tesla, will easily do 250-300km on a charge. My ID.3 does 340km on a full charge (100% to ~10%) and I’m spending a third on “fuel” per month vs the Fiesta, even though I can’t charge at home.
Btw, I also don’t think twice about driving from Amsterdam to Disneyland Paris 2-3 times a year - that’s 550km each way easily. 2-3 charges, every 2-ish hours, depending on the season and Paris traffic.
People are just afraid to change. Right now, some cars get excellent deals to get sold. Once everyone starts wanting these, kiss those deals g’bye.
Exactly why I have a PHEV. Battery for daily driving, gas for longer trips.
Ehh more like a 90km daily commute (+10km wiggle room for errands). However, the 150km advertised range turns into 120km actual range, which in turn gets reduced by 30% in the winter. Suddenly, a new EV (which I can't afford btw) has a range of less than what I need, meanwhile, old ones which I might afford (and are still waay more expensive than a used ICE) have nowhere near that amount of range.
So, a train?
Yes, we definitely need more trains, but the average person isn't really in a position to build a rail network, so using the infrastructure currently available, cars are a necessity for most travel.
Fair, but it is a bit of a chicken and egg problem, in the sense that public transportation will only get more funding when there is a demand for it. So if people are used to being able to drive 500km in their cars, they will see no reason to push politicians for better funding. And conversely, when good public transportation exists, people will not see a <100km range as a problem.
If you think that's bad, check out discussions about bicycling.
I'm the opposite. I don't drive much. The furthest I usually drive is about 60 miles and that is a once a month kind of thing, I usually just drive around town. And I could even make that round trip with a low end EV.
I have a hybrid now, but if I could afford an EV, I would definitely get one.
Yeah, I have a plug in hybrid and I see that lasting me quite a while. Usually get about 50 miles all electric which covers ~90% of my typical driving. About once a month I drive about 150 miles, and twice a year I drive on a long road trip.