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[–] Wilzax 50 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hamas is indisputably the enemy, the issue is that the tactics Israel uses to eliminate them also cause more civilian damage than should ever be acceptable. Often they target hospitals and schools where Hamas activity isn't even confirmed, seemingly just to cripple infrastructure and kill Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It makes Palestinians leave, making it easier for them to get the land. Isreal has made no secret of wanting everything up to Jordan.

[–] EisFrei 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It also radicalizes them, creating the next generation of terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Exactly. They are making the same mistakes as the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. If you have 10 terrorists and you kill 5 of them, you have 30 terrorists.

Our greatest successes were when we helped put in infrastructure for the locals. In my global economics class in college, I remember that when a playground was put in a city, al-Qaeda militants were eventually seen playing on the structures. It's a silly anecdote, but when you lift people out of desperate times, you lift them out of taking desperate measures.

Of course saying this terrorism is purely about economic hardship is only a part of the picture. There is a hatred against Jews that is widespread and isn't going away anytime soon (especially for those countries still following the Khartoum resolution: No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, No recognition of Israel), so there needs to be some hard power Israel needs to wield. Unfortunately BB has gone rogue and has decided to put all his chips on hard power and that won't help.

[–] Damionsipher 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"The enemy" of who? If a group is elevated to being an enemy due to the killing of civilians, the Israel government would easily meet that standard before Hamas.

[–] Wilzax 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The enemy of a fair and peaceful life for the innocent. Both Hamas and Israel have made it clear that they want conquest, not peace.

Israel is also the enemy. The enemy of our enemy should not always be our friend