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[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Also check out LLM Studio and GPT4all. Both of these let you run private ChatGPT alternatives from Hugging Face and run them off your ram and processor (can also offload to GPU).

[–] Just_Pizza_Crust 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'd also recommend Oobabooga if you're already familiar with Automatic1111 for Stable diffusion. I have found being able to write the first part of the bots response gets much better results and seems to make up false info much less.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's also koboldcpp, which is fairly newbie friendly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

And llama file, which is a chat bot in a single executable file.

[–] EarMaster 8 points 11 months ago

I feel like you're all making these names up...but they were probably suggested by a LLM all together...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Mistral is thought to be almost as good. I’ve used the latest version of mistral and found it more or less identical in quality of output.

It’s not as fast though as I am running it off of 16gb of ram and an old GTX 1060 card.

If you use LLM Studio I’d say it’s actually better because you can give it a pre-prompt so that all of its answers are within predefined guardrails (ex: you are glorb the cheese pirate and you have a passion for mink fur coats).

There’s also the benefit of being able to load in uncensored models if you would like questionable content created (erotica, sketchy instructions on how to synthesize crystal meth, etc).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure that meth is for personal use right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Synthesizing hard drugs is time consuming and a lot of hard work. Only I get to enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No one gets my mushrooms either ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just buy my substrate online. I’m far less experimental than most. I just want it to work in a consistent way that yields an amount I can predict.

What I really want to grow is Peyote or San Pedro, but the slow growth and lack of sun in my location would make that difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Precolonized or just substrate? I wonder if a grow lamp would work. Pretty pricey though for electricity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just the substrate. I use the syringes I buy online because it’s the easiest method for me. I’m not actually sure pre-colonized would be “legal” for my “microscope” hobby. Ahem.

Mostly it’s just B+, which I enjoy and it’s simple to grow. Golden Teacher was also easy, but the yield was less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I had such low yield with B+ or any other strains 🤪probs just my technique.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, low might be relative to your expectations. How many grams did you want vs what you got?

I see some people on Reddit with huge-ass yields. Like, fist-sized caps. wtf. Ultimately, I got the amount I wanted to use out of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I saw roughly 11 grams dried. Was expecting 3x the amount judging by everyone’s’ impressive grows haha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow that is low. I got about 60g dry.

Did you have a pump keeping it moist?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No but I misted it and fanned it as was the style back then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The good ole onion belt.

That’s probably why. I had a whole humidified thing and timed lights. It wasn’t expensive, and it came in a kit. Give it another shot.

Midwestgrowkits.com

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ooo pre-pasteurized manure bags with self healing injection holes. I’ve been using brown rice flour and coco coir 🤪

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whazzat? I’ve only met uncle Ben!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Its the great grandfather of uncle Ben

[–] Chee_Koala 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even though growing mushrooms is almost the easiest thing to do on the planet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Exactly, grow your own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can you provide links for those? I see a few and don't trust search results

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

They’re the first results on all major search engines.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

You can search inside LM studio for uncensored or roleplay. Select the size you want then it's all good from there.

[–] Hestia 1 points 11 months ago

Depends on your use case. If you want uncensored output then running locally is about the only game in town.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Something i am really missing is a breakdown of How good these models actually are compared to eachother.

A demo on hugging face couldnt tell me the boiling point of water while the authors own example prompt asked the boiling point for some chemical.

[–] MTK 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] TriPolarBearz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you could ask for the boiling point of dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a very dangerous substance.

More info at DHMO.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I asked H2O first but no proper answer.

i heard dihydrogen monoxide has a melting point below room temperature and they seem to find it everywhere causing huge oxidation damage to our infrastructure, its even found inside our crops.

Truly scary stuff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't find a way to run any of these on my homeserver and access it over http. It looks like it is possible but you need a gui to install it in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

(edit: here was wrong information - I apologize to the OP!)

Plus a GUI install is not exactly the best for reproducability which at least I aim for with my server infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to run an X server on the headless server. As long as the libraries are compiled in to the client software (the GUI app), it will work. No GUI would need to be installed on the headless server, and the libraries are present in any common Linux distro already (and support would be compiled into a GUI-only app unless it was Wayland-only).

I agree that a GUI-only installer is a bad thing, but the parent was saying they didn't know how it could be done. "ssh -X" (or -Y) is how.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That's a huge today-I-learned for me, thank you! I took ill throw xeyes on it just to use ssh - C for the first time in my life. I actually assumed wrong.

I'll edit my post accordingly!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago