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[–] m13 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It’s not us a “species” which is disgusting. It’s capitalism and a history of settler-colonialism which enforce disgusting behaviour.

Humans learn through language and culture. Yes at the moment the vast majority of humans blindly follow along in behaving in an abhorrent manner, but that doesn’t mean our fate is sealed or that we’re incapable of change, and building a new culture which encourages cooperative and better behaviour.

[–] LufyCZ -4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, capitalism is what caused all the world wars, even the little battles those guys with the swords did back in 900BC.

You can't just shift the blame for everything in the world on that one thing you hate, just doesn't work like that

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism literally caused both world wars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but a lot of other humans didn't. Can't much write off an entire species because we failed to prevent an outlier from gaining power for a little while.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also can't much attribute all the complexities of both wars to just "capitalism" either. That was my point.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes you can? Capitalism was very much at the root of the conflict. It can accurately be reduced to capitalism. You can elaborate and provide further detail to how it happened, but that doesn't change the big picture.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course you can over-simplify everything. You can do whatever you want!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

There is a difference between simplifying and oversimplifying. Just like there is a difference between nuance and losing the forest for the trees.

[–] LufyCZ -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't it a couple lads with hurt feelings?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

The larger causes were interimperial squabbling which is inevitable when capitalism reaches the stage of competing for foreign markets.

[–] markr 7 points 11 months ago

Look at it this way: industrialized warfare required capitalism.

[–] skeezix 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those guys with the swords in 900bc were fighting over the ability to hoard and exploit available resources and value. That’s capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what do you call whenever it’s two communist regimes that are fighting over resources

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Good propaganda.