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[–] betterdeadthanreddit 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If the person is able and willing to surrender after being shot, showing their hands (empty of anything they may have been holding before) and following instructions means the police can start first aid and bring in EMS sooner. The ambulance doesn't come in until it is safe to do so which won't be until after a search is done and handcuffs are applied. Specific details beyond that and exceptions to the norm would depend on local policies.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Assuming there was ever anything in the victim's hands to begin with. Plenty of cops will go on to deny the person emergency treatment under the guise of the individual being "too dangerous"

Edit: To anyone daring to question the veracity of this statement, just go ahead and watch the last moments of this man's life then take a good long look at yourselves and think about just what you're trying to defend here. This is nothing but murder. Decided on by an overly-sensitive EMT and endorsed by six different cops. Be ashamed of yourselves.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

...So if you use your hands to put pressure on the wound to stop the bleeding, you won't get an ambulance?

[–] TooLazyDidntName 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, but it's going to take longer for them to confirm the scene is safe for first aid and paramedics.

[–] FabledAepitaph 5 points 9 months ago

"We thought he was hiding a knife in his bullet wound."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

By the way, I'm wondering who pays for the ambulance in this case? Suspect or government?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In normal countries, normal people don't pay for use of emergency services.

What kind of hell do you live in where an ambulance is a cost/benefits equation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

What kind of hell do you live in

The hell of the United States' healthcare system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just a guess, but I'd think it'd be based on fault. If it's a justified shooting, they'll probably tack it into the suspect's fines. Ideally, if the shooting isn't justified, the govt would pay, but I wouldn't count on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm afraid your guess is wrong, at least in the US.

The patient is on the hook for any services rendered. If the patient has insurance, that will pay according to the patient's policy. The insurance company may then sue the city (subrogation) for causing the injuries, but that will go through lawyers and the courts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'm disappointed, but not in the least surprised.