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President Biden and other senior U.S. officials are becoming increasingly frustrated with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his rejection of most of the administration's recent requests related to the war in Gaza, four U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the issue told Axios.

Why it matters: Since the Oct. 7 Hamas attack 100 days ago, Biden has given Israel his full backing, with unprecedented military and diplomatic support, even while taking a political hit from part of his base in an election year. That support has largely continued publicly, but behind the scenes, there are growing signs that Biden is losing his patience, the U.S. officials said.

  • "The situation sucks and we are stuck. The president's patience is running out," one U.S. official told Axios.
  • "At every juncture, Netanyahu has given Biden the finger," Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who has been in close contact with U.S. officials about the war, told Axios. "They are pleading with the Netanyahu coalition, but getting slapped in the face over and over again."

Behind the scenes: Biden hasn't spoken to Netanyahu in the 20 days since a tense Dec. 23 call, which a frustrated Biden ended with the words: "This conversation is over." They had spoken almost every other day in the first two months of the war.

  • Before Biden hung up, Netanyahu had rejected his request that Israel release the Palestinian tax revenues it's withholding.
  • National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby tried to downplay the decrease in communication, telling reporters on Wednesday that "it doesn't say anything" about the state of the relationship.
  • But more and more signs of irritation are emerging. "There is immense frustration," a U.S. official said.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Israel wasn't popular with the other countries in the region before October, most of it's neighbors have called for it's destruction, US support is basically what keeps them in check.

[–] K1nsey6 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Israel is not popular in the region BECAUSE of the US.

[–] Linkerbaan 9 points 11 months ago

False. Israel isn't popular in the region because of israel.

[–] lledrtx 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Israel is not popular in the region because the others are extremely antisemitic. Let's stop pretending like the others are saints, please?

[–] K1nsey6 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

An old Zionist lie, conflate opposition to zionism with antisemitism

[–] assassin_aragorn 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah the Houthis do seem pretty antisemitic, straight up.

[–] K1nsey6 -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are trying to conflate antisemitism with being antizionist, perpetuating the Zionist lie

[–] assassin_aragorn 0 points 11 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slogan_of_the_Houthi_movement

"God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam"

Why exactly do they explicitly refer to Israel and "the Jews" separately if their issue is with Zionist Israel?

And then Al-Houthi had this to say through his fascicles: “Arab countries and all Islamic countries will not be safe from Jews except through their eradication and the elimination of their entity.”

You know what helps Zionists? Not condemning actual antisemitism, because it lets them continue the lie that anti Zionism is the same as anti semitism.

Unless, of course, you have a good explanation for how wishing a curse on Jews, distinctly from death to Israel, isn't antisemitic?

[–] lledrtx -2 points 11 months ago

A new Antisemitic lie, conflate Jewish people's desire to exist with Zionism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Im no historian but i figured Israel wasn't popular in the region because the country of irael used to be the country of Palestine until another country decided to put israel there. I bet Egypt hated having a lot of its territory held for a long time as well after that one war but like i said I'm no history doctor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's never been a country of Palestine, but you're right about not being a historian.....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There’s never been a country of Palestine

damn, really? Why did something like a million people get displaced when israels borders for drawn in 1950 or whatever? I can't remember the details. Why did all those people get forced from their homes?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they chose war rather than the deal the ruling power offered is the short answer.

Many of those people also left willingly at the direction of the Arab Nations surrounding Israel with the understanding they'd get to return after Israel lost the war. That obviously didn't happen because Israel won the wars.

Many were also just kicked out because this new nation had just been attacked and they wanted control over the disputed lands that they had won. It's not a clean situation but nation building rarely is.

Nearly one million Jews were also kicked out of their homes in the surrounding Arab Nations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Im really going to have to look this up again and knock off the rust. Wasn't the newly created state of Israel supposed to be ethnically Jewish? Was this not originally the intent? Could anyone live there? When did that change? I do remember the countries previously bordering the british territory almost immediately attacked once it declared itself a state, (like only days/weeks later) maybe im thinking of all the people fleeing the battle. There was a war at its inception then israel got a little pieces of egypt, syria and (i think) lebanon that they've still got.

Nearly one million Jews were also kicked out of their homes in the surrounding Arab Nations.

I know there was immigration of jews to Israel from the Arab states pretty soon after its creation. Did the Arab states kick Jews out like the us did with Japanese during ww2? Which nation did it first? Man there's too much shit to look at

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The goal of Israel was a Jewish homeland but it's never been only for Jews. Arabs have always lived there and always will. The Arab population of Israel has grown faster than the Jewish one too.

Look up Jewish exodus of the Arab world, the wiki is pretty informative. The war of independence would be key words to lead to information about the attacks when they were first granted nationhood.

Get multiple sources and double check those sources. lots of newly invented stories are flying around these days.

Israel isn't a perfect democracy but it's far and away the best option for the citizens in the region and they're not genocidal monsters although I'm sure some of them are horrid people, it seems you can't form a government without some of those making a part of it.

[–] Furedadmins 2 points 11 months ago

More like the US is not popular in the region because of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Israel isn't popular because the region wants a Pan Arabian state and having a Jewish one right in the middle doesn't allow them the caliphate they're going for.