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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

America doesn’t have to step in.

Do you think that will stop them?

[–] xantoxis 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

America likes Israel the way it is. I honestly don't know why any more, but America will not step in because America doesn't want to step in. Biden's popularity is in freefall because he refuses to do anything about America's complicity in this genocide--yet, he still does nothing. There must be a reason that overrides the compelling case to end a genocide, but I don't know what it is. He doesn't even have to send troops, he just has to stop sending them aid. He won't even do that. Idgi, but the fact stands that America will not step in.

[–] shalafi 8 points 11 months ago

Here's the "why":

"Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security. "

~Alexander Haig

[–] fenynro 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's because behind both parties is a unified force known as the military industrial complex, which loves any excuse to make and sell weapons.

Say our government decides to send 100 million dollars in military aid to another country. Most, if not all, of that 100 million is sent as physical armaments rather than actual currency. The government gives companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, etc the actual money for this aid effort, and their products (weapons of war) are what is sent along as aid.

As it turns out, companies like the aforementioned love any excuse to sell more weapons, and carry large amounts of sway with politicians on both sides of the aisle, so they pressure those sales to continue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That, and there's groups like AIPAC that'll do their best to crush any politician who's not sufficiently deferential to the apartheid regime.

Incidentally, Biden once bragged about going to more AIPAC events than any other politician in Washington.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm rewatching Oliver Stone's JFK from 1991 .... and when you listen to Costner's monologue from the real life Jim Garrison explaining the motivation of why JFK was assassinated and eliminated, the Military Industrial Complex was at the top of the list.

Just the actions of what happened the day after the assassination speaks volumes ... the new president Lyndon Johnson stepped back JFK's original plans to withdraw from Vietnam and made promises to his military that they would continue the war.

They didn't just kill a president in 1963, they signed the death warrant for two hundred thousand American soldiers and a million Vietnamese.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

JFK also wanted to shut down the CIA and was critical of Israel.

[–] MaXimus421 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As a companion piece to that great film witch doesn't even scratch the surface of the tragedy in 1963, I urge you to read or listen to the the book "LBJ - Mastermind of the JFK Assassination" by Phillip F Nelson.

It's absolutely fascinating and brings up more than a few irrefutable points. Seriously, give it a read or listen. (I personally prefer the audiobook).

It's 27 hrs long...

[–] xantoxis 2 points 11 months ago

any excuse

Not quite any excuse though. The world is full of conflicts, we still get a choice about which ones we're involved in, and on which side. If the M-I complex wants to build weapons, build them for Ukraine and nobody in the west will object. Build them to stop genocides, of which we still have multiple options. We love to build and sell weapons, yes, but we also usually make an effort to provide a moral veneer over it. Israel's moral veneer has long vanished, and yet we still choose to be on that side of the conflict. That is what I don't understand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The only hypothesis I have is that Israeli money is funneled to election funds. Like, if Dems anger zionists, Republicans will win the election. I don't know if that's true but I haven't found any other explanation yet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That's basically what AIPAC and similar groups do, though they blackmail during primaries as well as general elections.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago

Oh no, you misunderstood.

I'm saying America will step in to protect Israel from facing any kinds of consequences. It's like he said, if Israel didn't exist we'd have to create it.