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This is one thing that I'm still scratching my head about. Like, Reddit said no once, and everyone just shrugged and moved on.

I'd understand if most just threw in the towel completely and never wanted to work with Reddit at all, but it seems most would prefer continue to work on their apps.

And since most apps were free or even FOSS, why not say screw that, and make a (perhaps) last update with a field for the user to enter their own key?

Of course only a few users would take advantage of that, but then there's even less reason for Reddit to actually care about that, if they could even detect it at all.

I know some forks may pop up, I'm just wondering about the devs themselves.

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[–] WhoRoger -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I know, I wrote

Reddit said no once, and everyone just shrugged and moved on

And? So what? Are they gonna send a SWAT team after everyone that does?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why fight so hard to stay on a platform that clearly doesn't want you anymore?

[–] WhoRoger -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A shit ton if people have been fighting hard for the last month. 8000 subs, people have been campaigning and making dedicated web sites to follow what's up and to connect. There's been immense effort put into this from lots of people.

A few hours of work to pull the dev's key out and make the fields editable doesn't seem like much in comparison.

(I'm not demanding anyone to put their time for free to do this or anything. I'm just curious why this was such a no-go from the start while all the other campaigns were on full throttle.)

Ed: Btw look how e.g. Nintendo is hostile to everyone and yet people keep making fan games and whatnot...

[–] orientalsniper 4 points 1 year ago

A shit ton if people have been fighting hard for the last month. 8000 subs, people have been campaigning and making dedicated web sites to follow what’s up and to connect. There’s been immense effort put into this from lots of people.

Pretty sure 99% of the people here participated in the effort, when Reddit showed they wouldn't budge after the first blackout, we knew the fight was over, why beg to stay over with your abusive partner?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sure, they can ban the account of anyone using API keys like that, it's transparent to detect. Then they all get mad and come after the developer.

That was a nonstarter. Was not going to happen, Reddit needed those apps dead.

[–] AZzy 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chances are they could detect it and ban you. Hell I got banned from discord for interacting with their API using my own authorization token for a normal user account... To be fair my custom client was not convincing at all, but oh well.

[–] WhoRoger -1 points 1 year ago

But if you wouldn't continue with Reddit otherwise, then you don't need to care about a ban anyway.

I'm just wondering if I'm the only one with that thought process. You know what I mean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The apps' user agents and other fingerprinting detectors, which are shared by a public app, will get blocked by Reddit for breaking the API terms of service. The only way to avoid getting caught is to have the source code of the app and build it yourself with your own API key, while changing any unique fingerprints of the app.

[–] WhoRoger -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was thinking those fields could be editable.

Ed: Also wondering if it's actually against the rules or just spez being a twat again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It means it would only be a temporary solution.