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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cubans in Florida pushing for Trump was not on my bingo card, for sure.

I also remember seeing “general chat lobby” spammers switching from the boilerplate racism tropes to Portuguese and learning about Brazilian troll farms.

[–] FloMo 75 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of Miami-based Cubans are VERY anti anything socialist/communist. All you’ve really got to do is say you’re fighting “those socialists trying to take over” and it’s a tragically easy way to win that vote.

Source: My own family/life experience growing up in Miami

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the biggest flaw in communist theory is the "temporary dictatorship" part...
it turns out, temporary dictators never willingly stop being dictators...

[–] within_epsilon 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Any transition away from capitalism should not involve a dictator.

[–] Lycerius 6 points 10 months ago

Welcome to democratic socialism, friend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The "dictatorship of the proletariat" is just a stupid name for the transitional period. It's not supposed to be an actual dictatorship, but unfortunately Marx was a little drama queen from time to time...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, Marx was right; there's no way to do it without a dictatorship. There is no universe in which everyone miraculously agrees on how things should be run, and that means that coercion is necessary which in turn means that there has to be centralized and concentrated power, ie; an authoritarian dictatorship.

The experiment has been run before and we know how it ends.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think there is a universe where groups of people in specific regions all agree enough on how things should be run. And then, those groups have enough success to help convince other groups and regions to agree. We kind of see this happening now, with countries that have adopted Socialist policies setting examples.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Murdered by red fascists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They fled from a country that’s been communist for over 60 years and they’re not big fans of communism you say? Weird.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Actually it's because they're stupid and watch Fox News and haven't read enough theory

[–] nomous 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the established Cuban community in Miami are the children of wealthy Cubans who fled during the revolution. So yeah they fled communism but maybe not for the reason you meant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there's a reason they fled...

[–] nomous 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The country hadn't been communist for 60 years when they fled though, they weren't fleeing poverty. They were mostly pro-Batista affluent people and corrupt government officials who went into exile in Florida expecting to return when Castro was overthrown. Castro was never overthrown, so they stayed.

[–] Muyal 2 points 10 months ago

I witnessed the dangers of authoritarism, so I'm going to vote for... the most authoritarian douche that I can find"

Honestly I think it's time to stop pretending they are poor refugees and treat them as the fascist assholes they really are.

[–] MindSkipperBro12 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They fled Cuba after Bastilles fall and Cubas oppression from the communists so it makes some, unfortunate, sense that they support the orange man.

[–] BrerChicken 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It was Batista, not Bastille, which is the famous French prison.

[–] profdc9 11 points 10 months ago

You mean they were fired out of Cuba on Ballistas?

[–] MindSkipperBro12 0 points 10 months ago

Eh, close enough