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[–] jordanlund 23 points 10 months ago (9 children)

He... he knows that Israel's "Iron Dome" isn't LITERALLY a dome, right? Like the Iron Curtain wasn't ACTUALLY a curtain.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage 8 points 10 months ago

It's probably safer to not presume...

[–] kromem 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If you watch the video he goes on rambling about how "MIT graduates" go "bing bong boom" and shoot down an incoming missile "and then it's gone."

So yes, he seems aware it's a missile intercept program and not a literal physical dome.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 3 points 10 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

Or he could have referred to the actual system and explained it like a moderately intelligent adult, not a nine year old.

[–] ATDA 5 points 10 months ago

I can't wait till his supporters start the, "he isn't being literal" thing again until he says the, "THE DOME JUST GOT 10FEET TALLE'r"

[–] Bennettiquette 5 points 10 months ago

further, the “iron dome” of israel wouldn’t cover the state of florida. can you even imagine the logistics of trying to install one to cover the continental united states?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

he knows that Israel's "Iron Dome" isn't LITERALLY a dome, right?

This is Trump. That statement is NOT a given by any means. Odds are he does think exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

By this logic, Margaret Thatcher isn't really a lady.

[–] jordanlund 3 points 10 months ago

Well of course not, she's dead. ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] TIMMAY 2 points 10 months ago

The great iron curtain, it can be seen from space!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm not saying Trump's any kind of actual "stable genius", but he's not as dumb as he acts. Just like George W Bush did, he plays social media, exploiting what I like to call the "pro wrestling fallacy" that liberals fall for every time.

Back in the nineties, seemingly educated, largely-Democrat-leaning people would talk about how dumb wrestling fans were, since it's all obviously faked. The largely-Republican-leaning wrestling fans knew it was fake, it's a show ffs, they aren't five year olds, and they naturally felt really insulted, contributing to the growth of a divide that we see today - redcaps against the rest of us. You'd even get people passionately arguing that it's real, maybe to feel like they're kind of part of the show, maybe just to troll the "liberal elitists" who were looking down on them.

Every time Dubya said something like "misunderestimated", "is our children learning", or "catapult the propaganda", we all made fun of it, it was talked about on the talking head shows, maybe even a bit on Saturday Night Live. To us, he looked dumb, but his messages got more circulation, his name was said more, and the people who already felt this (actually ivy-league educated scion of a wealthy elitist family) was just a regular guy they could have a bear with, people who could empathize with not having the perfect words all the time, they felt like we were making fun of them - which, in a way, we were. They loved him for being one of them.

In a lot of ways, Trump has just taken that to the next level. He's a master of getting us to attack him, in a way that make large parts of the country love him, and it works.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 3 points 10 months ago

Bush was definitely acting dumb. I realized this was not just a hunch when watching a recording of him giving a minor speech on foreign policy to some group of media that covered this (like foreign press assn or something).

He was articulate, intelligent, using "big words", and had dropped the aw shucks accent. The speech was measured and insightful.

I don't agree with his politics but the idiot thing was an act to trick the rubes.

[–] Mediocre_Bard 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

... was just a regular guy they could have a bear with

... fuck yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oof lol, takes on a new meaning